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FDA panel votes to eliminate Vicodin, Percocet
PMSNBC.com ^ | 06.30.2009 | AP

Posted on 06/30/2009 10:22:46 PM PDT by KoRn

Government experts say prescription drugs like Vicodin and Percocet that combine a popular painkiller with stronger narcotics should be eliminated because of their role in deadly overdoses.

A Food and Drug Administration panel on Tuesday voted 20-17 that prescription drugs that combine acetaminophen with other painkilling ingredients should be pulled off the market.

The FDA has assembled a group of experts to vote on ways to reduce liver damage associated with acetaminophen, one of the most widely used drugs in the U.S.

Despite years of educational campaigns and other federal actions, acetaminophen remains the leading cause of liver failure in the U.S., according to the FDA.

Panelists cited FDA data indicating 60 percent of acetaminophen-related deaths are related to prescription products. Acetaminophen is also found in popular over-the-counter medications like Tylenol and Excedrin.

“We’re here because there are inadvertent overdoses with this drug that are fatal and this is the one opportunity we have to do something that will have a big impact,” said Dr. Judith Kramer of Duke University Medical Center.

Many opposed to recommendation But many panelists opposed a sweeping withdraw of products that are so widely used to control severe, chronic pain.

“To make this shift without very clear understanding of the implications on the management of pain would be a huge mistake,” said Dr. Robert Kerns of Yale University.

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This is a terrible recommendation to ban Vicodin and Percocet just because there are some idiots out there that take too much of it! Those two medicines are the most commonly prescribed pain relievers for people that have procedures done. If they aren't available doctors will be put into a box. To replace those medicines they will have to prescribe more potent medicines like Roxicodone(percocet without the Acetaminophen) or Dilaudid(Vicodin without Acetaminophen). 'TylenolIII' also wouldn't be available to doctors. If this goes through I'd buy stock in whoever makes the most Darvocet(as good a pain reliever as water) or Ultram. lol

This will also impact OTC Acetaminophen products.

If they cut the dosage of Tylenol, because some people are taking too many, are we supposed to believe that those same people won't just take more?

1 posted on 06/30/2009 10:22:46 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: KoRn

There are some potential lawsuits here, restraint of trade or other things.


2 posted on 06/30/2009 10:24:32 PM PDT by Rembrandt
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To: KoRn

Darn it! I love Vicodin! ;0) s/


3 posted on 06/30/2009 10:25:53 PM PDT by proudtobeanamerican1 (Prayers Up! It's our last defense!)
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To: KoRn
Government experts say prescription drugs like Vicodin and Percocet that combine a popular painkiller with stronger narcotics should be eliminated because of their role in deadly overdoses.

Wait. Weren't Vicodin and Percocet around only because true opiates like morphine were considered either too addictive, or prone to abuse?

Great. Just ban all of the fun pills. Two Vicodins and a beer were a fairly good time.

Bastards.

4 posted on 06/30/2009 10:28:22 PM PDT by SIDENET ("Join me or die. Can you do any less?" -Mr. Sparkle)
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To: proudtobeanamerican1

Actually, a stash of vicodin is nice to have on hand if you injure your back or sprain something and can’t get to the doc right away.

Not everyone who is fond of it is an addict.

All these people frying their livers on acetominephen are drinking too much or swallowing handfuls of it.


5 posted on 06/30/2009 10:28:42 PM PDT by Califreak (Dissident under duress)
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To: KoRn

Any “doctor” who voted for this recommendation should have their medical license revoked ASAP. They aren’t competent to practice medicine.


6 posted on 06/30/2009 10:29:11 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: proudtobeanamerican1
Darn it! I love Vicodin! ;0) s/

Don't worry.

They'll come up with something else good.

(hopefully)

7 posted on 06/30/2009 10:29:44 PM PDT by SIDENET ("Join me or die. Can you do any less?" -Mr. Sparkle)
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To: KoRn

Nanny State.


8 posted on 06/30/2009 10:29:51 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: KoRn

That’s an idiotic and bad move... nanny government doing their best to control everything, but screwing it up in the process...


9 posted on 06/30/2009 10:31:09 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: proudtobeanamerican1
"Darn it! I love Vicodin!"

So does everyone else.... after a root canal!

I don't think dentists have the same prescriptive authority as physicians, so they will be VERY limited in what they can prescribe for effective pain relief if Vicodin isn't an option. Maybe we can get some 'laughing gas' to go when we leave. lol

10 posted on 06/30/2009 10:31:09 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: SIDENET

“They’ll come up with something else good.”

Yeah, medicinal marijuana. Mark my words.


11 posted on 06/30/2009 10:37:01 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: KoRn

The synthetic narcotic in Vicodin is Hydrocodone a synthetic codine. Dilaudid is Hydromorphone, a synthetic morphine, and about 10-25% stronger than morphine. Percocet has Oxycodone, which is also a synthetic codine.

Hope this helps


12 posted on 06/30/2009 10:38:26 PM PDT by coincheck (My son is home, safe. My brother is in Afghanistan, My brother-in-law is in Iraq Pray for them all.)
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After a shattered left elbow and replacement surgery one month ago, Vicodin is the only thing that has kept me from going out of my mind with pain while I recover.

WHAT, the pharmacology is there to help manage pain, but we are not allowed to have it?

F’em!


13 posted on 06/30/2009 10:39:31 PM PDT by Mister Muggles
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To: PLMerite

On a serious note, it’s pretty damn sad that Americans had a more effective (though addictive) pain killer in morphine over 150 years ago, but have to put up with weaker drugs like Vicodin now.


14 posted on 06/30/2009 10:41:54 PM PDT by SIDENET ("Join me or die. Can you do any less?" -Mr. Sparkle)
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To: KoRn

Judith Kramer

15 posted on 06/30/2009 10:44:31 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: KoRn

I have been on a morphine drip after surgery and I still think Vicodin is the best thing around. Although I do like Darvocet as well.


16 posted on 06/30/2009 10:48:56 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: KoRn

These are all medications that have expired patents. It may be the FDA will outlaw them so they will bring in a lot more money for the pharmeceuticals as contraband. Basically Vicoden is 10 cents a pill as a legal drug, but they can make a lot more producing them in Mexico and bringing them across the border.


17 posted on 06/30/2009 10:49:07 PM PDT by microgood
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Exactly. Vicodin was the only thing that got me through both initial rest and until I could be scheduled for other pain management.

These people are idiots. If this goes through, a lot of people will unnecessarily suffer because of them.


18 posted on 06/30/2009 10:50:09 PM PDT by altoinprogress
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"Vicodin is Hydrocodone a synthetic codine. Dilaudid is Hydromorphone"

I thought that the active narcotic in Vicodin was hydromorphone, which is Dilaudid. I'm close to some people in healthcare, so I just pick up bits and pieces of info on different things. I stand corrected. I know I'm right on the remarks regarding Roxicodone/Percocet.

19 posted on 06/30/2009 10:50:34 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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In a separate vote, the panel voted overwhelmingly, 36-1, that if the drugs stay on the market they should carry a black box warning, the most serious safety label available.

The FDA is not required to follow the advice of its panels, though it usually does.

Doesn't seem that Vicodin is going anywhere very soon.

What about Norco, which is already a stronger Vicodin with less Tylenol. I wonder if this falls under the same voting recs since it has less Tylenol?

20 posted on 06/30/2009 10:58:50 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (Bono-Mack, Castle,Kirk,Lance.LoBiondo,Reichert,Smith,McHugh..WE ARE COMING...)
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