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Big pensioners: should they be named? (Califonia)
Calpensions ^ | 6-11-09 | Ed Mendel

Posted on 06/11/2009 9:16:11 AM PDT by twistedwrench

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http://www.californiapensionreform.com/calpers/

Great database, searchable by city.

Looks like “transparency” makes some people nervous

1 posted on 06/11/2009 9:16:11 AM PDT by twistedwrench
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city of Vernon retiree with a $499,675 annual pension.

Win the freaking lottery did he?

2 posted on 06/11/2009 9:17:42 AM PDT by listenhillary (90% of our problems could be resolved with a government 10% of the size it is now.)
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To: twistedwrench

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3 posted on 06/11/2009 9:18:16 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: twistedwrench
Bruce Malkenhorst, a city of Vernon retiree with a $499,675 annual pension.

How could any public employee retire with a half-million dollar pension?

4 posted on 06/11/2009 9:19:21 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Gitmo detainees to Alcatraz!)
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How could any public employee retire with a half-million dollar pension?

maybe he was a union steward on the side:)

5 posted on 06/11/2009 9:27:42 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: twistedwrench

ping


6 posted on 06/11/2009 9:29:18 AM PDT by ocr1 (commies love conrete)
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To: VeniVidiVici
Bruce V. Malkenhorst was Vernon’s city manager, finance director, city clerk, redevelopment director, treasurer and chief of light and power, all at the same time. He made $600,000 a year. I guess the city paid him full time for a bunch of part time jobs. He was charged for embezzeling even more money from the city, but I wasn't able to find if the trial has been completed yet and what the verdict may have been.
7 posted on 06/11/2009 9:32:35 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG, Chrysler and GM are what Marx meant by the means of production.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Very easily, I would think.


8 posted on 06/11/2009 9:35:09 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Vernon is notorious. It’s essentially a big industrial park, with tens of thousands of people working there during the day and a huge tax base. But the actual population is less than a hundred people, almost all of whom work for the city. Outsiders attempting to live there are actively discouraged. Elections are foregone conclusions. Basically it’s run entirely for the benefit of the insiders and has been that way for decades.


9 posted on 06/11/2009 9:38:41 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: twistedwrench
Bruce Malkenhorst, a city of Vernon retiree with a $499,675 annual pension.

This is an outrage! There's no way in hell that any public employee should retire on a half million dollar pension! This is thievery!

10 posted on 06/11/2009 9:39:39 AM PDT by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: twistedwrench

Wonder what his party registration is?


11 posted on 06/11/2009 9:42:48 AM PDT by junta (The Left must be divided and conquered one cult at a time.)
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To: pgkdan

” Bruce Malkenhorst, a city of Vernon retiree with a $499,675 annual pension.

This is an outrage! There’s no way in hell that any public employee should retire on a half million dollar pension! This is thievery! “

Pure insanity! That’s more than the President of the USA is paid!


12 posted on 06/11/2009 9:45:49 AM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: listenhillary

A lot of people don’t realize that many city governments across the nation in competing with state positions that pay more and against the private sector which also can pay more, find the equalizer in giving pensions that are gross-to-gross equivelent to making 75 to 95% of the highest salary the retired city employee made at their highest rate.

I have a freind who was the second ranking city attorney in a medium sized city and in discussing how modest his income was during his working years explained the trade off to me using his actual numbers.

I had to agree that he got screwed during his working years compared to private practice peers as accomplished as he was and that I saw the retirement date and amount as a big equalizer for his type of position. However, department clerks and meter readers get a high percentage as well and there is the real cost mounting up.


13 posted on 06/11/2009 9:49:04 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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From the article

Malkenhorst, a city of Vernon retiree with a $499,675 annual pension.

Some stories say the sparsely populated industrial city near Los Angeles has been run by just two families, the Malkenhorsts and the Malburgs.

14 posted on 06/11/2009 9:54:24 AM PDT by listenhillary (90% of our problems could be resolved with a government 10% of the size it is now.)
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To: twistedwrench

I worked in finance, mostly public finance.

To properly value the value of a pension (a stream of payments, very similar to an annuity), you need to discount the cash flow back to net present value. (There are on line annuity calculators which will do this for you.)

If you go to a single premium annuity calculator, you will see that in order to create a cash flow of $50,000 annually, for 30 years, at a 5% return, you’d need an up-front investment of roughly $1 million.

Since many of the public union employees fully vest after five (or ten) years, and can collect on their pensions beginning at age 50 (individual union constracts will vary, but that’s fairly typical), the value of a modest $50K annual pension is $1 million.

How many private sector employees can retire at age 50 with a one million dollar balance in their 401Ks and IRAs??

Very, very few.

And, the pension does not even include the HUGE benefit from subsidized (sometimes 100%) health insurance for the retiree (and often all dependents), for life.

For this reason, I consider retiring cops and school teachers in areas like southern california, downstate NY, NJ, and other heavily unionized states to be millionaires. Its all in the numbers.


15 posted on 06/11/2009 10:04:23 AM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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Oh, and obviously they should be named, since they are public employees, and their pensions are paid mostly with funds contributed by the plan sponsor (i.e, the city or municipality, i.e. the taxpayer).

Here is what they do in Taxxachusetts (the unions hate this database):

http://www.bostonherald.com/projects/pensions/yearly_pension.DESC/


16 posted on 06/11/2009 10:09:07 AM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: twistedwrench; Bubba Ho-Tep

Bruce "Mac Daddy In Retirement" Malkenhorst

17 posted on 06/11/2009 10:11:46 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: VeniVidiVici
"How could any public employee retire with a half-million dollar pension?" ...

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Didja foregt Fannies-- Franklin Raines..Water's 'man of the year" ?Recall he's a MILLION a year...Great reward for fraudulent earnings at the now 'busted Fannie Mae'-- huh?

18 posted on 06/11/2009 10:16:42 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: VeniVidiVici
More info on Vernon.

http://www.businessinsider.com/damn-california-pensioners-are-guaranteed-a-lot-2009-6

The FBI needs to go through Vernon with flame throwers and hazmat suits. When the germs are all gone, they can start all over.

19 posted on 06/11/2009 10:20:40 AM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, school and passport records.)
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Man of many talents.
Interesting information from an old Forbes article:

“Bruce Malkenhorst, 71, was for 32 years the city administrator as well as clerk, finance director, treasurer, redevelopment agency secretary and chief executive of the utility Vernon Light & Power. The city was reportedly paying him $600,000 a year, more than twice what L.A.’s mayor earns, until he resigned all posts unexpectedly and without public announcement in 2005. By most accounts Malkenhorst still pulls the strings. His appointed successor is his 42-year-old son, Bruce Jr.”

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2007/0226/104.html


20 posted on 06/11/2009 10:44:34 AM PDT by twistedwrench
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