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To: PeaRidge
"First, your opinion of Buchanan, too obvious the ad hominem attack that it was, changes nothing. He said what he said, and that was that as President, he did not have the authority to force any state to remain in the Union.

"ad hominem" attack on Buchanan?? Do you know what the word "dough face" means? Do you know where it came from?

OK, Mr. Philosopher King who is, oh, so very sensitive to "ad hominem" attacks on friends of the South, but who denies the existential possibility of "ad hominem" attacks on "damnyankees" (obviously since the truth cannot be "ad hominem," right?), here's the story on "doughface" northerners.

Back in 1820, Virginia Congressman John Randolf was debating the Missouri Compromise on slavery, and needed the help of northerners sympathetic to the South to get the bill passed. But Randolf despised those people for their lack of commitment to their own cause, and coined the term "doughface" (or possibly "doe faced") to describe them. The term stuck.

So President Buchanan was a "dough faced northerner," and that's a fact. And since the term was invented by a southerner, it cannot, by PeaRidge philosophical definition, be an unacceptable "ad hominem" attack -- since no derogatory term for northerners invented by southerners can be derogatory, only fact, right?

PR:"Southerners were saying exactly the same thing....and you know that. You also know that repeated attempts were made to solve the situation peacefully.""

BJK:"Can you quote Southern leaders advocating secession but claiming there was no reason to expect war, and the South would do everything possible to avoid war?”

PR:"Of course I can. How many quotes would suit you?"

My understanding is the South was eager for war, and unwilling to compromise ANYTHING to avoid it. But perhaps you can demonstrate otherwise? What was the South willing to compromise? I'd like to see those quotes.

901 posted on 06/28/2009 7:51:17 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK
Your post was rambling and poorly written.

If you think that the South did not want peace, then research the Peace Commissioners.

If you think the South was unwilling to compromise, then research their offer to open the Mississippi to Union shipping.

Other than that, I don't see the need to communicate with you.

913 posted on 06/28/2009 8:53:18 AM PDT by PeaRidge
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