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1 posted on 06/02/2009 4:45:49 AM PDT by Davy Buck
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To: Davy Buck

In addition to the slaves they had cotton and arrogance.


2 posted on 06/02/2009 4:50:21 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("Baldrick, to you the Renaissance was just something that happened to other people, wasn't it?")
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To: Davy Buck

Marked to watch this thread implode, LOL!


3 posted on 06/02/2009 4:53:00 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Davy Buck

I am going to book mark this one. Davy, you are about to find out how passionate some Folks are about their Southern Heritage.


4 posted on 06/02/2009 4:54:14 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (beef)
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To: Davy Buck

Secession was like a really bad divorce.

In any divorce, there are the reasons given by the spouses, and the true underlying causes. There is seldom much correspondence between the two. In fact, the spouses are quite often not fully aware of the true underlying causes.

The main (not only) underlying cause of secession and therefore of war was slavery. Without it all the others could have been settled amicably. With slavery in the picture all other factors were immensely aggravated.

And the war came.


5 posted on 06/02/2009 4:54:31 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles, reality wins all the wars)
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To: Davy Buck

For those of us who chose to read the article, the slavery issue was intelligently handled and explained. Thos of us who live in the South know that the Civil War (and, incxreasingly, I’m warming to the Southern name “War of Northern Aggression”) was not about slavery, it was about the economic survival of the South.


7 posted on 06/02/2009 5:07:02 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Davy Buck
Basil L. Gildersleeve, Virginia cavalry veteran and professor (author of a Latin textbook I still use for reference), describing his beloved home state's awkward position in the winter of 1860-61:

Submission is slavery, and the bitterest taunt in the vocabulary of those who advocated secession was “submissionist.” Interesting article - the source documents give us a glimpse of what was really going on.

10 posted on 06/02/2009 5:16:34 AM PDT by Ken522
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To: Davy Buck
I believe that while slavery was often only a secondary interest or even a non-existent motivation for the rank and file, the protection of slavery was the only real motivator for the prominent men behind the existence of the Confederacy. The opening of the official Mississippi secession justification states:

"Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world."

The secessionists' own words condemn themselves - it was all about slavery in the minds of the Confederate elite.

14 posted on 06/02/2009 5:39:36 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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The way I see it: If the Southern states wanted to leave the Union because they wanted to keep slavery and the rest of the Union abhorred slavery (this is not me defending slavery)...then the Union should have been HAPPY to let the Southerners go their way and watch the country implode. As it was though, the Union came barreling down with their troops and their self-righteousness to prevent the Southern states from exercising their Constitutional rights. So, then...who needed slavery? The Unionists wanted it both ways, if we’re going to argue that the War of Northern Aggression was all about stopping slavery.


17 posted on 06/02/2009 5:48:31 AM PDT by Alkhin (I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell. ~ Harry S Truman)
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To: kalee

bookmark for later reading


26 posted on 06/02/2009 10:03:23 AM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: Davy Buck
George William Brown, mayor of Baltimore in 1861, was a non-partisan politician and an opponent of secession (Lincoln jailed him anyhow).

George William Brown tried to have the bridges and telegraph lines leading into Baltimore from the North destroyed.

It's pretty much accepted that Sumter and war increased support for secession the Upper South after they had rejected it earlier.

But to jump to the idea that slavery wasn't at the root of the North-South conflict is unwarranted.

38 posted on 06/02/2009 2:22:33 PM PDT by x
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To: Davy Buck

gotta mark this , gonna be good


46 posted on 06/03/2009 5:53:56 AM PDT by piroque
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To: Davy Buck

mark


115 posted on 06/04/2009 8:26:25 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Private First Class - 1/16/09 - Parris Island, SC)
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To: Davy Buck

bump


153 posted on 06/04/2009 3:18:53 PM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Private First Class - 1/16/09 - Parris Island, SC)
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