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UFO believer: We're not the only ones
thonline ^ | May 31, 2009 | CRAIG D. REBER

Posted on 05/31/2009 6:20:05 PM PDT by JoeProBono

GALENA, Ill. -- Irving Berlin's "White Christmas" -- made popular by Bing Crosby -- sat on the top of U.S. music charts on Jan. 4, 1947, out of this world so to speak. Several months later, Roswell, N.M. would become the epicenter of all things out-of-this world.

Dr. Jesse Marcel Jr. was 11 when he was awakened around 1 a.m. on a July morning in 1947, when his father, Jesse Marcel, rushed into the family home. What he showed his wife and son changed the world forever.

Marcel Jr., the author of "The Roswell Legacy," was one of several guest speakers at this weekend's Out of This World UFO Conference at Eagle Ridge Resort and Spa in Galena.

Marcel Sr. was a U.S. Air Force intelligence officer, a major, who was dispatched to collect debris from a crash at a ranch near Roswell.

"He realized this was something unique, not a radar target or an aircraft or anything that he had ever seen before," Marcel Jr. told his Jo Daviess County audience. "He knew what radar targets looked like."

Marcel brought the debris into Jesse Marcel Jr.

Jesse Marcel Jr. began a 38-year military career in the U.S. Navy and went on to retire as a colonel in the National Guard. He works as a specialist in otolaryngology (ear, nose and throat medicine) at the Veterans Administration Hospital, Fort Harrison, Mont.

the house which was on the way from the ranch to the nearby air base. He wanted his family to see it. It was placed neatly on the kitchen floor.

"He said, 'Look at this. I think this is parts of a flying saucer,' or words to that effect," Marcel Jr. said. "I thought, 'What's a flying saucer?'"

The debris contained no electronic components, like vacuum tubes, resistors or condensers.

"There's a lot of foil-like debris, you can't really describe it," Marcel Jr. said. "It had a strange quality to it, weird stuff. It was like Mylar -- nothing like what we had in 1947 -- or what we have now. One of the beams had writing, resembling geometric symbols."

Marcel flew the debris to Fort Worth (Texas) Air Field where its commander, Gen. Roger Ramey examined it.

"The cover story started at that point," Marcel Jr. said. "The cover story was this was a radar target -- nothing more, which obviously was ludicrous."

Marcel Jr. recalled that after his father returned from Fort Worth, he told his family never to talk again about what had happened.

That's the way it was for many years until Stanton Friedman, a UFO investigator and nuclear physicist, interviewed Marcel Sr. in 1978 and got the story going from there.

Marcel Jr. said the incident changed his life.

"It actually made me more religious because it made me realize that our creator created a vast universe with other people out there -- so we're not the only ones," he said.

"It's maddening that the government has not released this information ...," he said. "They will in due time, and I hope in my lifetime because I would like to tell people I saw this stuff and I told you so."


TOPICS: UFO's; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: jessemarcel; jessemarceljr; kooks; roswell; ufo
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To: JoeProBono

All Hail!


41 posted on 05/31/2009 8:55:20 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Talisker

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2259395/posts


42 posted on 05/31/2009 8:58:23 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: devere
This subject has been thoroughly debunked.

Thoroughly and skillfully debunked, but not proven false. The debunking is just as much hearsay as the claims themselves, and the article you referenced is hardly unbiased - the number of third-party straw-men arguments, implicatory conclusions and yes, hearsay "facts" pads the hell out of the thing.

I believe, though he was 10 years old, Jesse reported what he actually experienced, and his dad was silenced by the cover-up. The military blew it - they admitted it before they denied it, and the absurdity of the weather balloon story just doesn't even remotely pass the smell test.

But what I have never believed is that a ship just "crashed" because of an electrical storm, after travelling from who knows where. We either figured out how to shoot it down, or "they" arranged it as a sacrifice to try to get us to admit it was real, or to transfer technology to us, or both.

But no matter what, I really hope they aren't galactic proctologists.

43 posted on 05/31/2009 9:08:54 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: omega4179

Oh, you’re no fun. ;(


44 posted on 05/31/2009 9:10:49 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: JoeProBono

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2259395/posts

Wow, cool beaners, thanks!


45 posted on 05/31/2009 9:11:21 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Talisker
The military blew it - they admitted it before they denied it...

Unless, of course, they set the whole thing up as a pretend mistake, in order to create the belief that they were hiding the UFO truth, because that was the way they wanted people to start getting used to the idea of UFOs (or they were playing both sides of the fence on the release of the information).

Wheels within wheels...

46 posted on 05/31/2009 9:15:39 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Talisker

“Thoroughly and skillfully debunked, but not proven false.”

Just as with global warming, there are many people who will not accept any contrary evidence, no matter how convincing.


47 posted on 05/31/2009 9:17:49 PM PDT by devere
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To: ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; airborne; A knight without armor; albertp; areafiftyone; aruanan; ...

ping to the A list!


48 posted on 05/31/2009 9:20:11 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot; JoeProBono

Is it true Al Gore was born nine months later?


49 posted on 05/31/2009 9:28:51 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: devere
Just as with global warming, there are many people who will not accept any contrary evidence, no matter how convincing.

My point as well, and global warming is the perfect example. So it seems we're in agreement ; )

50 posted on 05/31/2009 9:39:32 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Talisker

“So it seems we’re in agreement”

Somehow I doubt it!

Roswell and the Marcels illustrate the point that even good people with good intentions can make subjective errors in perception. This is sometimes referred to as the “Rashomon effect”, after the famous Japanese film.


51 posted on 05/31/2009 9:52:04 PM PDT by devere
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To: devere
This is sometimes referred to as the “Rashomon effect”, after the famous Japanese film.

I get it, and I'm applying it to you just as you're applying it to me. But I'm also smiling, so let's just agree to disagree.

52 posted on 05/31/2009 10:01:00 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: cayuga

Shaky video hand.


53 posted on 05/31/2009 10:13:06 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: All

UFOs ARE REAL...


54 posted on 05/31/2009 10:14:34 PM PDT by WashStateGirl
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To: LucyT

55 posted on 05/31/2009 10:14:43 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: WashStateGirl

“UFOs ARE REAL”

I can’t argue with that. The many observers are reliable, and their observations are remarkable. But what are UFOs? No one really knows.


56 posted on 05/31/2009 10:25:47 PM PDT by devere
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To: BenLurkin

But Al is an expert in SCIENCE! lol

It’s called “zombie science”: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2207237/posts


57 posted on 05/31/2009 10:30:22 PM PDT by devere
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To: JoeProBono

THANKS THANKS.


58 posted on 06/01/2009 12:10:57 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: JoeProBono

It’s such a blessing to know that Jesse Marcel Jr, MD is a Conservative Christian . . . wounded Iraq Vet MD on top of all his other accomplishments.

I’m glad he made such a presentation at the conference.

Maybe he will come on here and comment.


59 posted on 06/01/2009 12:12:58 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: BlueStateBlues

Are you a naysayer or what?


60 posted on 06/01/2009 12:13:29 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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