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UFO believer: We're not the only ones
thonline ^ | May 31, 2009 | CRAIG D. REBER

Posted on 05/31/2009 6:20:05 PM PDT by JoeProBono

GALENA, Ill. -- Irving Berlin's "White Christmas" -- made popular by Bing Crosby -- sat on the top of U.S. music charts on Jan. 4, 1947, out of this world so to speak. Several months later, Roswell, N.M. would become the epicenter of all things out-of-this world.

Dr. Jesse Marcel Jr. was 11 when he was awakened around 1 a.m. on a July morning in 1947, when his father, Jesse Marcel, rushed into the family home. What he showed his wife and son changed the world forever.

Marcel Jr., the author of "The Roswell Legacy," was one of several guest speakers at this weekend's Out of This World UFO Conference at Eagle Ridge Resort and Spa in Galena.

Marcel Sr. was a U.S. Air Force intelligence officer, a major, who was dispatched to collect debris from a crash at a ranch near Roswell.

"He realized this was something unique, not a radar target or an aircraft or anything that he had ever seen before," Marcel Jr. told his Jo Daviess County audience. "He knew what radar targets looked like."

Marcel brought the debris into Jesse Marcel Jr.

Jesse Marcel Jr. began a 38-year military career in the U.S. Navy and went on to retire as a colonel in the National Guard. He works as a specialist in otolaryngology (ear, nose and throat medicine) at the Veterans Administration Hospital, Fort Harrison, Mont.

the house which was on the way from the ranch to the nearby air base. He wanted his family to see it. It was placed neatly on the kitchen floor.

"He said, 'Look at this. I think this is parts of a flying saucer,' or words to that effect," Marcel Jr. said. "I thought, 'What's a flying saucer?'"

The debris contained no electronic components, like vacuum tubes, resistors or condensers.

"There's a lot of foil-like debris, you can't really describe it," Marcel Jr. said. "It had a strange quality to it, weird stuff. It was like Mylar -- nothing like what we had in 1947 -- or what we have now. One of the beams had writing, resembling geometric symbols."

Marcel flew the debris to Fort Worth (Texas) Air Field where its commander, Gen. Roger Ramey examined it.

"The cover story started at that point," Marcel Jr. said. "The cover story was this was a radar target -- nothing more, which obviously was ludicrous."

Marcel Jr. recalled that after his father returned from Fort Worth, he told his family never to talk again about what had happened.

That's the way it was for many years until Stanton Friedman, a UFO investigator and nuclear physicist, interviewed Marcel Sr. in 1978 and got the story going from there.

Marcel Jr. said the incident changed his life.

"It actually made me more religious because it made me realize that our creator created a vast universe with other people out there -- so we're not the only ones," he said.

"It's maddening that the government has not released this information ...," he said. "They will in due time, and I hope in my lifetime because I would like to tell people I saw this stuff and I told you so."


TOPICS: UFO's; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: jessemarcel; jessemarceljr; kooks; roswell; ufo
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1 posted on 05/31/2009 6:20:05 PM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

Swamp gas. Ball lightening. Too much to drink. One toke over the line. Anyway, rocks don’t fall from the sky either.


2 posted on 05/31/2009 6:23:17 PM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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3 posted on 05/31/2009 6:25:06 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

Nice graphic. As the world turns.


4 posted on 05/31/2009 6:27:37 PM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: JoeProBono

Sorry, I do not believe. No Aliens, Ghosts, or Yetis.


5 posted on 05/31/2009 6:28:50 PM PDT by omega4179 (Boycott all fascist run corporations,,,, for America.)
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To: BlueStateBlues

“Swamp gas. Ball lightening. Too much to drink. One toke over the line. Anyway, rocks don’t fall from the sky either.”

I saw my first swamp gas when I was eight years old. Three silver triangles just hanging in the sky over Nashville. Strange days.


6 posted on 05/31/2009 6:28:52 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: JoeProBono

While it is very probable that there is intelligent life out there, I tend to doubt stories that we have been visited by them.

The Roswell Incident, for example does sound believable, but it has been shown that it was not a UFO that crashed in the desert.

Area 51 has received much publicity over the years as a secret ‘Reverse Engineering’ facility where it is alleged that the US has alien spaceships. But it is in fact a military installation where some of the most advanced weaponry we have has been made. The false information put out about Area 51 has put a spotlight on it, and has made our top secret military installation very high profile. It would be interesting to know who exactly started these rumors and who has helped flame these same rumors.


7 posted on 05/31/2009 6:29:57 PM PDT by EAGLE7 (They MAY take our lives but they'll never take our freedom!)
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To: BlueStateBlues
Swamp gas. Ball lightening. Too much to drink. One toke over the line. Anyway, rocks don’t fall from the sky either.

Have you studied ufology? Groom Lake? The MJ12 hoax, read anything by Stan Grodon, Muiltiverses. I figured as much. Swamp gas in desert New Mexico? What a thoughtful and snarky bit of.."I have to chime in with random mouth diarhea in this thread"

8 posted on 05/31/2009 6:32:42 PM PDT by pburgh01
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To: JoeProBono
"All right, Beatrice, there was no alien. The flash of light you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus."


9 posted on 05/31/2009 6:34:10 PM PDT by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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"No Aliens, Ghosts, or Yetis."

You should meet my in-laws

10 posted on 05/31/2009 6:38:07 PM PDT by muir_redwoods ( Hey, remember the last head of state who dictated the design of automobiles?)
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To: BlueStateBlues
Swamp gas. Ball lightening. Too much to drink. One toke over the line. Anyway, rocks don’t fall from the sky either.

:: grin ::

11 posted on 05/31/2009 6:40:48 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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What a thoughtful and snarky bit of.."I have to chime in with random mouth diarhea in this thread"

Whoa there, cowboy. You're launching friendly fire - he's on your side. It's called sarcasm.

12 posted on 05/31/2009 6:43:08 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: JoeProBono
THEY'RE HERE!!!


....and they're hungry!
13 posted on 05/31/2009 6:47:33 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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...but it has been shown... But it is in fact... It would be interesting to know who... has helped flame these same rumors.

LOL. Depends on what the definition of "rumors," is.

14 posted on 05/31/2009 6:47:53 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: pburgh01

Hey, my comments were satire. Why do you think I hit on the thread, just to dump on it? I’ve never seen a UFO but have had experiences with multiuniverses—and why do you think I know about the term “swampgas”, because I don’t give a. . .
?


15 posted on 05/31/2009 6:50:33 PM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: Talisker

Sarcasm?


16 posted on 05/31/2009 6:52:20 PM PDT by EAGLE7 (They MAY take our lives but they'll never take our freedom!)
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To: EAGLE7
The Roswell Incident, for example does sound believable, but it has been shown that it was not a UFO that crashed in the desert.

And who or what do you contend has 'shown' any such thing?
17 posted on 05/31/2009 6:53:42 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: Dallas59

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2261850/posts


18 posted on 05/31/2009 6:56:42 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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19 posted on 05/31/2009 6:59:41 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: mkjessup

Here ya go....

http://www.csicop.org/si/9507/roswell.html


20 posted on 05/31/2009 7:00:17 PM PDT by EAGLE7 (They MAY take our lives but they'll never take our freedom!)
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