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The Illustrious Dead: The Terrifying Story of How Typhus Killed Napoleon's Greatest Army
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Posted on 05/31/2009 1:03:31 PM PDT by decimon
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To: Little Bill
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posted on
05/31/2009 4:42:42 PM PDT
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SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv
...Rickettsia prowazekii.That looks Polish. I see it now...Napolean and Hitler made the mistake of going through Poland on the way to Russia. ;-)
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05/31/2009 4:54:23 PM PDT
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decimon
To: decimon
Remember that every General or Emperor or Tyrant or whatever is always fighting the last war and thinks HE has solved the problem(s) thereof.
Ergo, Hitler no doubt thought he could beat General Winter in Russia via the use of blitzkreig tanks, even though the majority of German transport in WWII was still horse-drawn.
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posted on
05/31/2009 5:11:59 PM PDT
by
wildbill
( The reason you're so jealous is that the voices talk only to me.)
To: wildbill
Ergo, Hitler no doubt thought he could beat General Winter in Russia via the use of blitzkreig tanks, even though the majority of German transport in WWII was still horse-drawn.Hitler certainly made his errors. But looking strictly at military prowess, the Werhmacht was likely as good an army as there has been. I'm sure that even the Israelis study their tactics. No choice, really.
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posted on
05/31/2009 5:24:18 PM PDT
by
decimon
To: SunkenCiv
Thanks everyone for putting me straight on the difference between typhus and typhoid. You learn something new everyday with Free Republic!
To: SunkenCiv
And even if Nappy overlooked that, one would think that the Kaiser would have remembered Napoleon. And for that matter, that *Hitler* would have remembered both of them... Or all three... Those who fail to learn from History...
And the lesson is, I know what happened to them, but I'm smarter than they were, so I'll succeed where they failed, because...
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posted on
05/31/2009 5:38:30 PM PDT
by
ApplegateRanch
(The mob got President Barabbas; America got shafted)
To: SunkenCiv
Yes, physical stress (including poor diet) and poor environment seem to play a big role in typhus. That's why I find it hard to believe that typhus alone beat the French. Their campaign went downhill from the very beginning. Their supply lines were too long and subject to Russian guerilla attacks, and they couldn't live off the land due to the Russian scorched-earth policy. Also, as your quote shows, cold temperature favors the disease.
Napoleon's big successes were all in highly developed western Europe. He didn't do so well in guerilla wars in backward countries.
To: hellbender
Napoleon peaked early in his career as supreme field commander. If he’d had more patience and aptitude for politicking, he’d have been better off, and so would have Europe. OTOH, we wouldn’t have “The 1812 Overture”, so...
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05/31/2009 7:19:38 PM PDT
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SunkenCiv
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To: decimon
Well, c’mon, they’ve got the sausage.
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05/31/2009 7:21:08 PM PDT
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SunkenCiv
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To: Monkey Face
In a way, he had the right idea — his entire host numbered something like 1.5 million, which is an enormous number. Obviously not all were soldiers, there was a remarkably well-thought-out support staff. About one-third of them made it back to the border of Russia. Horrendous. And some people still say Wellington beat Napoleon. :’)
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05/31/2009 7:23:53 PM PDT
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SunkenCiv
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To: Madam Theophilus
Just be glad we didn’t make you sit in the time-out chair. ;’) ;’) ;’)
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05/31/2009 7:25:14 PM PDT
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SunkenCiv
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To: decimon
That’s very true, the Israelis primarily model their strategy and tactics after those of the Germans in both WW’s. Not surprisingly, in the 1973 war the Syrians and Egyptians followed the model of the Red Army in WWII, which was itself an adaptation of and amplification of and counter to certain aspects of German approaches. I love that line from the movie Patton — “Compared to war, all other forms of human endeavor shrink to insignificance.”
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05/31/2009 7:30:08 PM PDT
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SunkenCiv
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To: ApplegateRanch
Success in battle is, more often than not, due to what for want of a better term we call good luck. :’) Napoleon should have concentrated on building French industry and keeping the British off the continent, rather than worrying about what the Russians were doing.
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05/31/2009 7:32:27 PM PDT
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SunkenCiv
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To: hellbender
Their supply lines were too long and subject to Russian guerilla attacks, and they couldn't live off the land due to the Russian scorched-earth policy.
/bingo
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05/31/2009 7:33:16 PM PDT
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SunkenCiv
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05/31/2009 7:36:17 PM PDT
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SunkenCiv
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To: taxcontrol
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posted on
05/31/2009 8:54:05 PM PDT
by
Pelham
(California, formerly part of the USA)
To: decimon
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posted on
06/01/2009 4:40:05 AM PDT
by
wolfcreek
( The Republican Party shouldnÂ’t open itself like a whorehouse to new voters)
To: wolfcreek
Thanks.
So many ways to die.
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posted on
06/01/2009 5:29:12 AM PDT
by
decimon
To: hellbender
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posted on
06/01/2009 5:44:45 AM PDT
by
DariusBane
(Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
To: SunkenCiv
The 1812 Overture is awesome!
He was no piker, until he got full of himself. Napoleonic Complex, anyone?
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posted on
06/01/2009 6:21:01 AM PDT
by
Monkey Face
(Is a vegetatian permitted to eat animal crackers?)
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