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National Sales Tax Chatter Draws Fierce Opposition
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Posted on 05/28/2009 11:21:11 AM PDT by Mind Freed

As lawmakers toy with the idea of an across-the-board sales tax on just about everything, tax reform advocates are starting to drum up opposition with the same fervor they employed during last month's anti-tax tea parties.

The idea of a national sales tax was once unlikely. But now that the federal government is doling out billions in stimulus spending and bailouts, and looking for billions more for health care reform, the prospect could be gaining some traction.

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KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; bho44; bhotaxincrease; nationalsalestax; tax; taxes; vat
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National Sales Tax Chatter Draws Fierce Opposition

That's because they want to add this on top of the federal income tax!

1 posted on 05/28/2009 11:21:11 AM PDT by Mind Freed
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To: Mind Freed

The VAT is not a sales tax, its hidden inside the prices of products


2 posted on 05/28/2009 11:22:47 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now, NOW)
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To: Mind Freed

Thats because they think you still have money left.


3 posted on 05/28/2009 11:24:27 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Mind Freed

Well they sure are giving republican’s in 2010 issues. Taxation is something that no one wants and between the carbon tax ( literally taxing the air), this national sales tax and all of the other taxation they’ve proposed it would be hard not to pound the issue home.


4 posted on 05/28/2009 11:25:56 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: GeronL

Yep.
Canadians know this.
It’s one of the most expensive taxes to collect and audit, and it KILLS competition.
That’s why a huge percentage of Canadians regularly engage in smuggling along the US border.


5 posted on 05/28/2009 11:29:50 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Mind Freed
I wish that some articulate conservative would explain to the ignorant masses the differences between the Fair Tax and 0bama's European style VAT tax. Every time one of these liberals or their flacks in the MSM start pushing for the VAT, someone like Neil Bortz should explain.

1) The Fair tax includes repeal of the 16th ammendment and reduction in the power of the IRS

2) Under a Fair Tax the tax rate can only be raised by a super majority in congress or in the event of national emergence such as a War. Once the emergency ends, the tax goes back down.

3) Lord Zer0's VAT is applied at every stage of production causing exponential rises in prices. The Fair tax is collected once at the point of sale.

4) Necessities like food clothing and shelter are exempt from a fair tax.

5)A fair tax encourages saving, the VAT encourages government growth.

6 posted on 05/28/2009 11:42:01 AM PDT by YankeeReb (Obama: In your heart you know he's Wright)
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To: Mind Freed

trial balloon to see who reacts to it. Once their opponents are identified they can cook up a strategy to start taking them down, one by one.


7 posted on 05/28/2009 11:48:03 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SJSAMPLE

I am starting to love the barter system and the black market


8 posted on 05/28/2009 11:48:32 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now, NOW)
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To: Mind Freed
Congress critters know there is no need for a VAT consumptions tax. There has been a non VAT consumption tax before Congress since 1999. It's called The Fair Tax(HR25/S296). It will replace all federal income taxes with a non VAT national sales tax and abolish the IRS. Click on the icons below for more information.


9 posted on 05/28/2009 11:50:01 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: GeronL

Just don’t go blind from “corn squeezins”.
Some of that backwoods stuff ain’t safe.


10 posted on 05/28/2009 11:50:31 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: GeronL

Not really. In the UK you did see the VAT broken out as a percentage of whatever you were paying for. At least in the early 1990s - I know, I saw my bills.


11 posted on 05/28/2009 11:53:10 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Mind Freed

It would be a 10% (or 20%...or 30%) pay cut for *everyone*.Even the RATS’ main constituency...welfare recipients.


12 posted on 05/28/2009 11:53:32 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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I am starting to love the barter system and the black market

This could describe some married men's sex life also...

13 posted on 05/28/2009 11:59:07 AM PDT by central_va (www.15thVirginia.org Co. C, Patrick Henry Rifles)
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To: Mind Freed

Exactly, most people would be fine with the federal government swapping sales for income tax... well most people who pay income tax but the fed will *never* quietly give up the ability to get a chunk of your take home pay before you do..


14 posted on 05/28/2009 12:09:16 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: central_va

ouch


15 posted on 05/28/2009 12:20:42 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now, NOW)
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To: Mind Freed

I was just thinking my taxes were too low. :)


16 posted on 05/28/2009 12:22:10 PM PDT by Tzimisce (http://groups.myspace.com/nailthemessiah)
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To: Man50D
It will replace all federal income taxes with a non VAT national sales tax and abolish the IRS.

That is a myth.

There would still be a Federal entity that would collect the taxes and audit the books of businesses that paid the taxes.

The only difference would be that the Federal Tax collector would not be out to get individuals (with the exception of small business owners).

17 posted on 05/28/2009 12:22:38 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: chris_bdba

Haven’t you heard the news? 95% of Americans are getting a tax cut.

It’s only the rich who are paying higher taxes, and they can afford to spread the wealth.


18 posted on 05/28/2009 12:23:34 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (Barack Obama: The final turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: Mind Freed

Need to buy foreign goods outside of the US!


19 posted on 05/28/2009 12:38:28 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I swear by my life & my love of it, that I will never buy U.S.made goods again!- In Galts Vallley!)
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1. VAT
2. Tax my health benefits
3. Cap-n-Trade (eco tax)
4. Going Green on cars (more expensive)

Damnit Jim, I’m a Doctor not an ATM !!!!


20 posted on 05/28/2009 12:54:01 PM PDT by ak267
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