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To: JoeProBono

Conflicted on this one. Uncomfortable with a child being denied treatment. Even more uncomfortable with the state making the decision for the family.


2 posted on 05/25/2009 3:41:48 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles, reality wins all the wars)
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To: Sherman Logan

The child is not being denied treatment, the family has chosen a different treatment path than what is generally used.


5 posted on 05/25/2009 3:46:30 PM PDT by svcw (The prerequisite for receiving the grace of God ... is knowing you need it.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Conflicted on this one.

Me, too. I would have stronger opinions if I knew more... for example, is the treatment highly likely to cure, or only likely to postpone death at the cost of great discomfort. If it were highly probable it was a cure, I'm reluctantly with the treatment. Otherwise, I'd probably go for the family's right to make their own decisions.

6 posted on 05/25/2009 3:46:59 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: Sherman Logan

>>>Conflicted on this one. Uncomfortable with a child being denied treatment. Even more uncomfortable with the state making the decision for the family.

The state NEVER has a place deciding medical treatments. This is still a free country. For now....


8 posted on 05/25/2009 3:51:30 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (ESPN MNF: 3 Putzes talking about football on TV while I'm trying to watch a game.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Even more uncomfortable with the state making the decision for the family.

It's non of the state's business, IMO.

10 posted on 05/25/2009 3:53:50 PM PDT by kcvl
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I know. I read somewhere that his chance of survival even with the chemo is very slim. We let girls decide on abortions at that age. So what if he still says he doesn;t want it, what are they going to do; restrain him so they can administer it anyway?


11 posted on 05/25/2009 3:53:52 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Some of the court transcripts are up on the net. I’m with the judge on this one. I think he gave the mom plenty of time to Dr shop for a reasonable alternative treatment. “Ionized” water and organic greens is not my idea of reasonable even if the mom does claim 100% effectiveness.

Sometimes loons are parents too. Nobody would interfere if the woman was treating her own cancer, but she’s not... How far to we let a parent go when their lunacy is resulting in medical neglect?

No Dr. is backing her up, neither is her family. The guardian ad litem says she and the boy both need counseling because their choices stem not from research and valid belief but from irrational fears regarding the death of the mom’s sister (the boy’s aunt) from a dissimilar cancer five years ago.

It’s not like the court is operating in a vacuum, without input from the surrounding community, friends, family and the medical establishment.


18 posted on 05/25/2009 3:57:58 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Always be prepared to make that difference.)
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To: Sherman Logan; Conservativegreatgrandma; svcw; Pearls Before Swine; Keith in Iowa; kcvl; ...

The Father is for the treatment. The mother is against it.

The family is divided, that is one reason the state is involved.

The Father has parental rights too.


29 posted on 05/25/2009 4:07:33 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Sherman Logan

Some things are just not the government’s business. Medical treatment is one of them,. IF we want the government out of healthcare we need them out of our families/


33 posted on 05/25/2009 4:10:43 PM PDT by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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To: Sherman Logan

He wasn’t denied treatment, he took treatment as you can obviously see from the photo.

He is tired of the chemo that doesn’t seem to be working and wanted to end it to live the best he could with what time he had left.


38 posted on 05/25/2009 4:13:56 PM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: Sherman Logan

My sentiments exactly. I just don’t know how to come down on it, altho I lean toward letting parents decide. Still, if she were friend or family I would counsel her to have the treatments for the boy. I don’t think a 13 year old is making an informed decision, he’s listening to his Mother.


95 posted on 05/25/2009 4:34:33 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Sherman Logan; JoeProBono

//Even more uncomfortable with the state making the decision for the family//

I hear you. These court imposed medical procedures are way over the line (its bad enough what they do to people in the penal installations), and they dont give the kid any credit/influence on his destiny.

Next thing down the line they might mandate forced organ transplants (multiple) to ‘save the life of a minor’. Imagine that horror if if was forced upon you.


132 posted on 05/25/2009 4:48:52 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: Sherman Logan

I feel the same way.


155 posted on 05/25/2009 5:07:28 PM PDT by dixiedarlindownsouth (I Love My Country But Fear My Government)
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