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To: Kansas58

There was lots of bigotry against catholics in america. from the days after the civil war until probably JFK was elected, catholics and black were both considered dangerous to america. I don’t have any proof to back this up, but my great grandfather claimed that the KKK was at one time as anti-catholic as it was anti-black. I’ve also been told that in america, masons were at one time anti-catholic.

Don’t you think it’s a little bit suspicious that the knights templar were into banking and insurance and that the knights of columbus were as well? And that the origins of the freemasons is connected to the knights templar? Also, don’t forget that the catholics murdered the knights templar. Stands to reason that the masons would not be overly friendly to the catholic church.

Your post sounds an awful lot like a lame excuse to me. The fact still remains that the knights of columbus is nothing more than a CATHOLIC ONLY version of the masons/shriners/knights templar.


30 posted on 05/24/2009 10:59:17 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: mamelukesabre

The KKK Act was written to protect, “Catholics, Negros and Republicans in the Reconstruction South” -— read it sometime!

I am a bit of an expert on the topic, since I belong to 2 out of 3 of those groups, yet Judge Kelly and George Tiller tried (and failed) to use that Act against me!


37 posted on 05/24/2009 11:06:20 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: mamelukesabre
Want to make a liberal REALLY mad?

Give them some historical evidence that “Women's Suffrage” or Women's right to vote, was widely promoted by the KKK, which believed that White Women would vote in higher percentages than Black women!

http://www.ucpress.edu/books/pages/5625001.php

39 posted on 05/24/2009 11:08:51 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: mamelukesabre

Protestants killed LOTS of Catholics.

Catholics killed LOTS of Protestants.

Many Churches were burned, on both sides, during the “Reformation” -— and much of that strife was NOT justified by anything but a lust for power by the leaders involved.

Christians are human, and as such we are all sinners, and members of the various Christian faiths will make mistakes, and will be lead the wrong way at times.


41 posted on 05/24/2009 11:12:52 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: mamelukesabre

You asked me why the Knights of Columbus was formed.

I gave you, IMHO, a very good answer.

Now, you seem to feel that the Knights of Columbus has no valid right to exist, as it was founded for “financial” reasons? Sorry but your arguments and biases are hard to understand.

SO WHAT!

Yes, Catholics wanted a Fraternal organization, and at the same time Catholics need insurance protection that they were denied, due to bigotry.

So, what in the world is wrong with Catholics taking care of Catholics?

Frankly, you can not qualify for “fraternal” insurance rules and tax rates and regulatory issues without a religious or charitable or community purpose.


43 posted on 05/24/2009 11:16:56 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: mamelukesabre

Your history is a little fractured.

KKK was anti-black, anti-Catholic and anti-Jew...Universal haters.

The Knight’s Templar weren’t into banking.. They invented the concept.

Catholics didn’t murder the Knight’s Templar, the king of France did...True the pope didn’t offer too much complaint but at the time he was being held in relative “captivity” in France as well.

French King owed the Templars a boat load of money and couldn’t pay up.


92 posted on 05/24/2009 12:55:02 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: mamelukesabre
I don’t have any proof to back this up, but my great grandfather claimed that the KKK was at one time as anti-catholic as it was anti-black.

The KKK has had three quite different incarnations.

1860s version: primarily anti-black and anti-unionist white.

1920s version, by far the largest and most powerful: primarily anti-immigrant and anti-Catholic, to a relatively minor extent anti-semitic. At this point the blacks were quite thoroughly "in their place." They were also anti-booze, supporting Prohibition.

The 1960s version bounced back to being anti-black.

128 posted on 05/24/2009 2:13:24 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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