[srmorton]

You have judged Joel (which,as Christians, we are not supposed to do) by one appearance on Larry King Live. I listen to him EVERY week and I have also heard him speak in person. I, unlike you, do not presume to know a person's heart by one appearance on a secular TV show.

As far as Rick Warren, his book, The Purpose-Driven Life, is one of the best, and most simple, explanations of the Christian faith that I have ever read. My Sunday School class studied it extensively several years ago and watched the accompanying videos with Rick Warren. He has been the first step to accepting Christ for more people than you can count.

[Friendofgeorge]

I have listened to Joel and Rick on many occasions, both of them are afraid to stand up and be counted. They both refused to condemn what Obama stands for. Be courageous like Franklin Graham, Dr Dobson etc. Rick Warren promoted Obama for President, IMHO he has blood on his hands.