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So, what's the real reason Otay Mesa LLP doesn't want the sensors on their property?
1 posted on 05/10/2009 11:59:50 AM PDT by HiJinx
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Border Sensor...Ping!


2 posted on 05/10/2009 12:00:17 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support Our Troops ~ www.AmericaSupportsYou.mil ~)
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Mo' money, Mo' money, Mo' money....


3 posted on 05/10/2009 12:03:07 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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Otay Mesa Property LP, Rancho Vista Del Mar and Otay International LLC filed a lawsuit in March 2006 seeking compensation for the use of 750 acres of valuable development land in San Diego County.

Oh, yeah, I'm sure it's real valuable. Everybody wants to live in a subdivision right on the Mexican border. /s

The answer is to run the sensors around their property effectively putting it in Mexico. But then the greedy bastids would sue because the gummint wasn't protecting them.

6 posted on 05/10/2009 12:22:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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Just means their property is going to be condemned. Some people aren’t very smart.

There was a similar situation on the Canada Border with the US. The US Family Farm kept complaining and the US just condemned their property after they lost a court case bought by the family against the border patrol for damaged crops.

They were on the radio, nice people. They were having their rights violated no doubt, but the alternative was worse.


8 posted on 05/10/2009 12:27:18 PM PDT by dila813
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I actually talked to some agents there one day. They were quick to tell you how some landowners near the border obstruct them in any way they can. One example was that Agents can go without warrant onto property adjacent to the border, but they do not have a right to use roads.

Some Landowners paid off by the dopers build iron pipe gates and force the USBP to walk several miles down a dirt road to patrol.

It’s naive to think the cartels have corrupted an entire nation in mexico, but that magically, everyone just this side of the fence is pure as the driven snow. These are the people who fight the USBP, and of course, people who have a last name ending in “Z”.


10 posted on 05/10/2009 12:47:24 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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The Constitution requires that owners of private property taken for public use be compensated.

Protection of the border is obviously a perfectly legitimate public use, but compensation is still required.


11 posted on 05/10/2009 12:54:51 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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There are interesting tidbits about these three entities (Otay Mesa Property, L.P., Rancho Vista Del Mar, and Otay International, LLC)
in a prior court case (PDF). Apparently more than one-half of their 293 acres were designated by the FWS as "critical habitat" for the
"fairy shrimp" so they sued the DOI. The land is described as follows:
Plaintiffs’ property is located along the United States-Mexican border in San Diego
County, east of the city of San Diego, in a rugged and hilly coastal-mesa area, lying west of the
foothills of the San Ysidro Mountains. Pls.’ Opp’n at 4. Most of the area is accessible only in
heavy-duty utility vehicles or on horseback, and is not accessible by public roads. Id., Ex. 2 (Wick
Decl. (“Wick Decl.”)) ¶ 5. The portion of Plaintiffs’ property that is designated as part of the critical
habitat is privately owned, unimproved land, but is zoned for light industrial use. Pls.’ Opp’n at 4.
The Plaintiffs together own approximately 274.55 acres, about 143 acres of which have been
designated by the FWS as critical habitat for the San Diego fairy shrimp. Id. These 143 acres are
included in a 391-acre area that the FWS refers to as Subunit 5D, a parcel designated by the FWS
as fairy shrimp habitat. Id. at 4-5.
https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2008cv0383-22
14 posted on 05/10/2009 1:39:52 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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So, what’s the real reason Otay Mesa LLP doesn’t want the sensors on their property? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

They are greedy sacks o shiite and want monetary compensation for a “taking” of part of their land


15 posted on 05/10/2009 1:42:00 PM PDT by dennisw (Your action becomes your habit. Your habit becomes your character, that becomes your destiny)
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Should place sensors everywhere but where the ranchers object. . .and then let everyone know which ranchers objected and do not place sensors there. This action will funnel the bad guys right through there, open door, as it were, and let the rush begin, hoards of filthy illegals passing through and trashing his lands (and maybe even home). Yup. . .seems like a perfect plan to me.
25 posted on 05/10/2009 4:37:00 PM PDT by Hulka
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Let’s see, some State Supreme Court just ruled that it’s okay for the cops to put a GPS tracker on your car without a warrant, but it’s not okay to put sensors on someone’s land along an international border which is being violated.

Yeah, right.


27 posted on 05/10/2009 5:04:35 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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31 posted on 05/10/2009 6:49:27 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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