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Pennsylvania bill would ban use of welfare benefits to buy alcohol
The Patriot News ^ | 10 May 2009 | Associated Press

Posted on 05/10/2009 7:27:26 AM PDT by The Good Doctor

Pennsylvania lawmakers are considering a bill that would bar welfare recipients from using taxpayer-backed benefit cards to buy alcohol.

(Excerpt) Read more at pennlive.com ...


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KEYWORDS: welfare; wellduh
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"...when should government play a role, and where is it intruding on grounds where personal responsibility should be playing a stronger role?"

Personal responsibility is so 1980's. /s

1 posted on 05/10/2009 7:27:26 AM PDT by The Good Doctor
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To: The Good Doctor
Any mention of meth or crack?
2 posted on 05/10/2009 7:30:08 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: The Good Doctor

How about Cigarettes TOO!


3 posted on 05/10/2009 7:30:16 AM PDT by philly-d-kidder (“Nothing is more powerful than a man who prays” (St. John Crisostomus))
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To: The Good Doctor

Many states already have this regulation. No one can argue against it; I doubt PA will have a problem getting it passed.


4 posted on 05/10/2009 7:32:03 AM PDT by aNYCguy
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Many states already have this regulation. No one can argue against it; I doubt PA will have a problem getting it passed.

I agree. However, all you'll find is a black market crop up where vouchers get sold for cash.

5 posted on 05/10/2009 7:34:24 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: The Good Doctor
"Pennsylvania bill would ban use of welfare benefits to buy alcohol"

All they'd have to do is cash the welfare check at the check cashing place next door to the liquor store. Where there's a check cashing place, there's almost always a liquor store on the same block.

6 posted on 05/10/2009 7:35:08 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: econjack

yup..usually for .50 or .75 on the dollar


7 posted on 05/10/2009 7:35:51 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info..)
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To: The Good Doctor

Meth and crack sales expecting boost in sales due to extra income available.


8 posted on 05/10/2009 7:40:39 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (<P><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajsov1M4h50"> Thank You Satan 1:50</a>)
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To: The Good Doctor

The welfare people use a debit card and from what I have figured out from being behind them in line they can ask for a certain amount of cash from it. They can buy booze with that.

However I do the like the idea of them just buying the basics but like everything else in their life they will overcome and figure a way around it.


9 posted on 05/10/2009 7:41:32 AM PDT by linn37 (a mortgage in every pot)
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To: The Good Doctor
i saw a welfare rat buy a pack of gum with a food a stamp at a 7/11 one day and get real change back, then walk outside and throw away the gum.

i said what the hell is that all about knowing the answer as soon as the question left my mouth,

"Oh he'll do that all over town then but cigarettes and beer when he gets enough real money."

10 posted on 05/10/2009 7:42:29 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: econjack

Yes, I knew people who sold their food stamps for cash to buy alcohol, cigarettes, etc. Nothing will prevent people from using the cards to buy wholesome food and selling that food for cash to buy want they want.


11 posted on 05/10/2009 7:43:10 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: The Good Doctor
Welfare checks have their origins in vote buying, why not everything else?
12 posted on 05/10/2009 7:43:10 AM PDT by blam
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To: philly-d-kidder
How about Cigarettes TOO!

At least Texas' system had a safeguard in place preventing such purchases with our food stamps. Welfare piglets still tried to circumvent the law. My first job was as a grocery store cashier and I can tell you some stories. Before the electronic system came into existence, the state issued actual "food coupons," denominated "bills" that were used like money to buy food. Only, any cent difference was refunded in change. Welfare piglets would buy a stick of gum, get the change, buy another, stick of gum, get change, etc. until they had enough for a pack of cigarettes. Truly despicable how they would game the system, but there was little we could do. Thank goodness for the debit card that replaced the coupons.

13 posted on 05/10/2009 7:43:10 AM PDT by fwdude ("...a 'centrist' ... has few principles - and those are negotiable." - Don Feder)
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To: The Good Doctor

The fact that this is not already the case, staggers.


14 posted on 05/10/2009 7:43:18 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Unless the meth dealer has a VISA license, I don’t see it as much of a problem.

And seriously, since you can get cash from an ATM with those cards, all they are doing is delaying it for a tad bit longer.


15 posted on 05/10/2009 7:47:32 AM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: Lazamataz

What’s the difference between this policy and one where to government dictates salary caps to companies getting bailout funds? I don’t like either policy. Do you restrict use of charitable donations to uses for which you personally approve? The solution is welfare and bailout reduction if not elimination.


16 posted on 05/10/2009 7:48:47 AM PDT by Ahithophel (Padron@Anniversario)
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Do you restrict use of charitable donations to uses for which you personally approve?

Yes, I do.

If you ask me for $20.00, I would deny you the right to buy a rock of crack cocaine with said $20.00.

17 posted on 05/10/2009 7:50:17 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: The Good Doctor

Thought of that all by themselves, did they?


18 posted on 05/10/2009 7:52:12 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (What did Obama's Teleprompter know, and when did it know it...)
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To: Ahithophel
I don’t like either policy.

If it was their money, they could do whatever they want with it. However, in this case it is MY money.

19 posted on 05/10/2009 7:52:33 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: dfwgator

I’m calling ACORN and the ACLU and RAZA and the NAACP right now...this can’t be happening. Why should the poor not have alochol?


20 posted on 05/10/2009 7:57:54 AM PDT by rovenstinez (..)
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