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To: JDW11235; grey_whiskers
The fundamental mistake that creationists and intelligent design proponents make is the imputation of intention to non-intentional processes.

Sometimes a cigar is just a joke.

17 posted on 05/05/2009 1:45:05 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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Wow.

We need nationalized health care right away!


18 posted on 05/05/2009 2:03:55 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: snarks_when_bored
The fundamental mistake that creationists and intelligent design proponents make is the imputation of intention to non-intentional processes.

Fair 'nuff, in its own way, if you arent' begging the question/engaged in circular reasoning.

But as a riposte, the fundamental mistake evolutionists make is assuming any designer gave us the original blueprints and design requirements, acting as an engineer and not an artist, and that there have been no vandals in the workshop.

Their "zeroth order" model of theism contradicts the actual beginning tenets of most monotheic religions. Equal a priori probabilities and Occam's razor and all that, but those are only *meant* to be used when you are entering blind, and wish to minimize false positives. Religion at least *claims* to be revealed (attacking the first point, as some people -- and/or deities and spirits are more trustworthy than others); and the a priori / razor approach gives little confidence in protecting against false negatives.

State of the art of my thinking on it at the moment. (Read my tagline tho'.)

Sometimes a cigar is just a joke.

And sometimes it's an expensive hand-rolled Cuban.

How *does* one go about telling the difference, Monica?

:-P

Cheers!

20 posted on 05/05/2009 4:08:38 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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