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K-STATE RESEARCHER FINDS THAT THE 1918 SPANISH...RESULTED IN CURRENT...H1N1 SWINE INFLUENZA VIRUSES
Kansas State University ^ | April 30, 2009 | Kristin Hodges

Posted on 04/30/2009 10:14:24 AM PDT by decimon

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1 posted on 04/30/2009 10:14:24 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

You think this is why God called pigs “unclean” animals? Hmmmmm...what does God know? Hmmmm.....


2 posted on 04/30/2009 10:24:20 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: decimon
you've killed us all you little...!


3 posted on 04/30/2009 10:26:32 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: decimon
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I'm saving the world by eating the pigs before they kill everyone.

Where's my Medal of Freedom?

4 posted on 04/30/2009 10:29:02 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Mark 7: 18"Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'? 19For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.")
5 posted on 04/30/2009 10:30:02 AM PDT by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
You think this is why God called pigs “unclean” animals? Hmmmmm...what does God know? Hmmmm.....

This is all above my pray grade but I suspect that is tradition and not commandment.

Now I'll sit back to await my flogging.

6 posted on 04/30/2009 10:43:34 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Biden to US: Hunker in the Bunker!


7 posted on 04/30/2009 11:06:27 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: decimon

The researchers did not find a significant difference in effects from the 1918 and 1930 viruses in infected pigs. This was surprising, since the 1918 virus killed more than 20 million people and was lethal to ferrets, mice and macaques. Another surprising finding from the study was the rapid antibody response in the animals infected with the 1918 virus, which is not typically reported for the swine influenza virus.


This supports the alternate theory that it was not the virus that killed but a co-infection of strep for which we did not have antibiotics in 1918. The strep coinfection would not have occurred in the 1930 cases.


8 posted on 04/30/2009 11:09:15 AM PDT by bioqubit
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Jewish tribal elders figured out that pork tends to have a nasty disease associated with it.

From the CDC website

“If you eat raw or undercooked meats, particularly bear, pork, wild feline (such as a cougar), fox, dog, wolf, horse, seal, or walrus, you are at risk for trichinellosis.”

Most if not all those foods is unkosher.

I also believe that there is the fact that pork is the nearest in aroma and taste to human flesh. Indirectly not eating pork might cut down the rare cannibalism.

Since the laws about swine being unclean came from the book of Leviticus we have to assume that Jews from Adam to Moses in his youth ate pork without God condemning them. If swine is so unclean why would God allow Noah to bring Swine into the Ark?


9 posted on 04/30/2009 11:12:25 AM PDT by Swiss ("Thus always to tyrants")
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To: decimon

PING


10 posted on 04/30/2009 11:13:34 AM PDT by Ulysse
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To: bioqubit
This supports the alternate theory that it was not the virus that killed but a co-infection of strep for which we did not have antibiotics in 1918.

It's been my understanding that viral infections are rarely killers. That the viruses create opportunity for more serious bacterial infections.

11 posted on 04/30/2009 11:14:46 AM PDT by decimon
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To: bioqubit

I’ve noticed that some sources no longer call it Swine Flu. They call it Influenza A (H1N1)


12 posted on 04/30/2009 11:16:15 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: decimon

If I recall a book about the 1918 flu there was a massive die off of swine the year before the flu hit. Most likely this was caused by a strain of the Swine Flu that later mutated into a flu that became transmittible in humans in 1918.


13 posted on 04/30/2009 11:16:27 AM PDT by Swiss ("Thus always to tyrants")
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The real problem was that no one expected the Spanish Influenza.
14 posted on 04/30/2009 11:19:04 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Snickering Hound

Hubby remarked that pork is marked down a LOT at the grocery store right now... Might be a good time to stock up on those yummy baby back ribs!


15 posted on 04/30/2009 11:22:36 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Swiss
If I recall a book about the 1918 flu there was a massive die off of swine the year before the flu hit.

This fellow is claiming that that virus was not fatal to the piggies.

16 posted on 04/30/2009 11:26:11 AM PDT by decimon
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It wasn’t because the 1918 virus most likely didn’t exist until the 1917 swine virus mixed with another flu virus in either a human or bird host. Swine deaths in 1918 was not above normal and there was no evidence of pigs becoming infected or sick from the 1918 flu. Just like there was no evidence of humans getting sick from the sick swine in 1917.

If it was happening today we would have specimens of the virus in the pigs. The 1917 original swine virus if it was discovered somewhere would tell us a lot more about the 1918 human virus.


17 posted on 04/30/2009 11:50:31 AM PDT by Swiss ("Thus always to tyrants")
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All animals have their purpose, some of them are to be scavengers and keep the earth cleansed of rotting and putrid things. - Having said that, the law was given to the Jews and not the Gentiles, but I’ve often wondered if it wouldn’t be better healthwise not to eat scavenger meats. I do like bacon, well done and crispy. In the Kingdom of God, rest assured we’ll eat what’s available and furnished for us.


18 posted on 04/30/2009 11:54:35 AM PDT by Twinkie (TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT!)
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Herodotus (5th Century, B.C.) writing about pharaonic Egypt:
The pig is regarded among them as an unclean animal, so much so that if a man in passing accidentally touch a pig, he instantly hurries to the river, and plunges in with all his clothes on. Hence, too, the swineherds, notwithstanding that they are of pure Egyptian blood, are forbidden to enter into any of the temples, which are open to all other Egyptians; and further, no one will give his daughter in marriage to a swineherd, or take a wife from among them, so that the swineherds are forced to intermarry among themselves.

They do not offer swine in sacrifice to any of their gods, excepting Bacchus and the Moon, whom they honour in this way at the same time, sacrificing pigs to both of them at the same full moon, and afterwards eating of the flesh. There is a reason alleged by them for their detestation of swine at all other seasons, and their use of them at this festival, with which I am well acquainted, but which I do not think it proper to mention.


19 posted on 04/30/2009 12:43:20 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Swiss
"I also believe that there is the fact that pork is the nearest in aroma and taste to human flesh."

Hence the term, "long pork" for human flesh.

20 posted on 04/30/2009 12:46:50 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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