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To: Blood of Tyrants
Best gun for your price point. Can shoot a gnat off a fly's ass at 15yds.

9x18 Makarov


39 posted on 04/19/2009 2:40:45 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Sprechen sie Austrian?)
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To: VeniVidiVici
If you are going to shoot 9x18 Makarov,
You might as well carry 13 rounds.

a CZ mdl-82Image


46 posted on 04/19/2009 2:57:56 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: VeniVidiVici
As long as we're going to mention good commie milsurp guns and ammo, and since price is a consideration.....

Here's my tip of the month: there is still a great pistol and ammo deal out there waiting for you. If you have waited too long to arm up, or if you want one more, look at the excellent milsurp CZ-52 pistol and 7.62X25 Tokarev ammo.

You can get a CZ-52 for about $200 at any gun show or at many gun stores. The ammo can be had for as low as 11 cents a bullet in any quantity you want. Extra mags are from $12 to $20 each.

The milsurp ammo is full metal jacket, firing an 85gr bullet at 1,600fps. These will go through car doors, kevlar helmets, kevlar vests etc like an icepick through butter. OTOH, they will also go through one bad guy and maybe hit a good guy behind him.

However, you can buy hollowpoints ("Wolf Gold" with brass shells) for about $19/50, or half the price of comparable 9mm JHPs. My test "Wolf Gold" JHP ammo expanded to .60 caliber, the same as my test 9mm JHPs.

So for $400, you could buy a CZ-52, 1,500 rounds of assorted ammo, and a few extra mags. OR, you could buy about 2/3s of a "brand name" pistol, and no ammo.

It's just a thought. This is a great bargain. The ammo is cheap and plentiful at all of the internet catalog sites. Don't wait, the libtards will soon slam the door on foreign gun and ammo imports, and the prices will go way up.

Another benefit of this pistol is that it is very accurate, with very fine sights. WIth this flat-shooting ammo, you can hit at 100 yards with ease. Downsides are brittle firing pins (buy a spare, and don't dry fire) and a decocking function that you should not trust. Just lower the SA hammer like a 1911. The safety works like a 1911, so if you are used to 1911s, it will be very easy to use the CZ-52

51 posted on 04/19/2009 3:12:42 PM PDT by Travis McGee ("Foreign Enemies And Traitors" will be ready the first week of May.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

I had forgotten about the Makarov. What about the CZ-82? I haven’t read about them.


76 posted on 04/19/2009 6:23:50 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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