Posted on 04/13/2009 11:39:11 AM PDT by TaraP
A former engineer at the top secret airfield "Area 51" in Nevada has spoken out about UFO sightings in the region in the 1960s, saying the witnessed flashes of light were part of top secret US aircraft experiments.
In an interview with ABC News, Thornton "T.D." Barnes, 72, a former special-projects engineer at Area 51 said: "No one really knew we existed. Even our wives didn't know where we were going when we left Monday morning and came back Friday evening."
Barnes was an electronics engineer for NASA who also specialised in advance radar and Soviet MiG fighter aircraft and was asked to join a team of CIA experts who would work on secret military projects at the infamous base.
UFO folklore has it that Area 51, about 80 miles north northwest of Las Vegas, is where captured aliens and their spacecraft have been stored by the US military. The conspiracy theory comes in part because of the preponderance of strange, unaccounted for lights that have been seen in the region of the top secret military base.
However Barnes poured cold water on the theory saying the "alien spaceships" were in fact light flashes from top secret spy planes being flown at 2,000 miles per hour at altitudes of 90,000 feet.
The experimental planes produced light flashes that some interpreted as alien spaceships and this was considered helpful by the team in covering their activities.
"We considered it to be a bonus," said Barnes. "They made it easier to conceal what we were doing."
However some ufologists have said the area has only been partly declassified and UFO work at the base may well have carried out though in a region unknown to engineers such as Barnes.
"Those guys who came forward may very well be telling the truth, with the caveat that they wouldn't know if there was something going on," said Stanton T. Friedman, a nuclear physicist, lecturer and top UFO researcher.
Friedman added that evidence coming out of places such as Area 51 proved how much was going on in the country without peoples' knowledge.
"National security has a real place in all of this stuff. There is no way to tell your friends without telling your enemies," he said. "A lot of Americans woke up to the fact that there's a lot going on that they don't get told about."
Yeah. Quite understandable.
Thx.
My friends told me not to take your class. Said you had all this confusing stuff about “Type I errors” no one could figure out. They said your grading curve also sucked. I shoulda listened to them.
Your friends must be in a different galaxy than this one.
Certainly a different planet.
I have a pile of student evals and comments to prove the assertions utterly false. LOL.
Another C for Creativity, however.
BTW, if naysayers can’t wrap their minds around TYPE I VS TYPE II ERRORS,
they have no business pontificating about scientific evidence on UFO’s or anything else.
There is nothing else they could be.
Either they are fully human, or they are hybrid human/angel; there are no other choices. This universe was created for the express purpose of raising God’s elect here on Earth, and when that purpose is complete, it will be destroyed. Peter made that fact very plain.
The desire to have other creations is just not scriptural!
I disagree.
Peter did nothing of the kind. What Scripture are you referring to?
I do believe that this boot-camp planet is unique in all Creation. imho, There’s nothing in Scripture to even strongly hint that it’s the only habitable etc. world or even intended to be the only such.
Who are the Children of Israel and the joint heirs of Christ going to rule and reign over?
I don’t think God Almighty had in mind that they would rule & be kings and princes over cockroaches as subjects.
Where are the Children of Israel going to number as the sands of the seashore? This place isn’t big enough!
You're thinking of the seed of Abraham, not the Children of Israel. His descendents number in the billions. As for the "ruling" bit, have you become a Mormon lately?
Thanks for the ping!
Not at all a Mormon.
Those are plain Scriptures. They are to be taken literally.
FEMA FIRE FIGHTING MANUAL
ATTESTS . . . EVIDENTLY . . . TO THE REALITY OF UFO’S:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ4Fu1Xgyjc
You realize that you are parroting the lines of arch kook, Jack Shulman. Look him up, he’s quite the fraud. Where’s that 12 THZ transcap????
http://www.subversiveelement.com/Roswell_Reverse_Engineering_Shul.html
Reverse-Engineering Roswell UFO Technology
Computer company chief Jack Shulman argues that the transistor could never have been invented so suddenly at AT&T in late 1947 without the input of alien technology.
Edited from a lecture at the Global Sciences Congress in Florida, USA
(Audiotape transcribed by Ruth Parnell)
Hi, I’m Jack Shulman. I’m the head of the American Computer Company. American Computer Company is part of the Technology International Group and Bell North America group of companies. I’m also one of the owners of the group of companies. I’ve been in the computer industry for about 28 or 29 years. I’ve worked for IBM as a professional services management consultant. I worked on the development of the personal computer in 1978 for FIT [Fashion Institute of Technology] and Simplicity Patterns, later adopted by IBM. I developed something called the “pattern creator”. That’s where we got the term “PC”. Prior to that, I’d developed what you might call the first windowing operating system in 1975 for Citibank, and before that there were earlier versions I did for a company called Vydec. I’m a serious computer person - very, very serious - and also someone who’s not generally inclined to leap to great predispositions about any unusual subject.
Well, as it turns out, a few years ago I got my dose of reality. It was in the form of a visit from a friend of mine. When I was very young I’d got involved in technology, partly by virtue of the influence of a friend’s father. I grew up in central New Jersey, which is around where AT&T and Bell Labs originated, and my friend’s father was the head of Bell Labs. I ended up at a private school and ended up living at the household of the head of Bell Labs, going to that private school and going to college with his son as a roommate, and I kind of grew up around the various projects at Bell Laboratories in the late 1960s and early 1970s.
I’d always held out that AT&T was this rather magnificent institution. Anybody here worked for AT&T in the past? So, you know when I say Bell Labs research, I’m speaking Holy Grail; and in certain parts of the defence community and in government I’m also speaking Holy Grail. Anyone here realise that AT&T and Bell Laboratories ran our nuclear arsenal for 45 years? Anybody who knows that, raise your hand. Not a one of you. I didn’t really even know until a little bit later in my career, but I knew something strange was going on because it always seemed to me that AT&T always had what it needed to make innovations in technology, and subsequently such technology would migrate to an IBM or a Sarnoff Research or to an RCA...
Read the rest at the link above.
Because you guys keep changing your story. First it’s angels in a chariot of fire, then it’s angels carrying humans, oh no wait it’s angels carrying hybrid humans.
And you still haven’t even tried to explain why a celestial chariot would have transistors and kevlar.
Well some are waving around “4000 scientifically verified landings”, not all of those could have happened where the government could control all the evidence, otherwise it would be hard to scientifically verify them. So where’s the stuff? The alien transistors and kevlar? The bodies? This freaking ships? You know, where’s the proof?
GOD Bless you Quix..
More churches need to have people like you to help the Children of this world that are prey for the worst kind of human beings!
THANKS THANKS.
This addiction to church music at 95-115db or LOUDER
is criminal, imho. It is certainly UNLOVING.
Seems like the only way I may be able to get the message across to some is with satire . . . so be it. I think I can manage satire. Can I manage to write satire that’s not TOOOOOOO much over the top . . . may be the question! LOL.
BRING YOUR CHILDREN TO CHURCH so we can destroy their hearing—and further destroy your’s too! All the while enjoy that added dopamine high from being addicted to the gut jiggling vibrations as we shred the hair cells in your ears.
Come one, come all, we dish out enough noise abuse to go around!
Thanks for your kind words.
Heading off to college. Wearing my blue sound protector earmuffs at church tonight.
Didn’t you see the President’s Psychiatrist?
Or whatever that movie was called?
LOL.
I used to be a big fan of Bell Tel
Mommy worked for them in my younger years.
And nobody has presented a shred of proof that they did.
Except there are on this thread that insist most of the cool inventions from the post 1947 world had their root in whatever crashed outside of Roswell. Of course you are correct in that they aren’t presenting any proof, but they are insisting that it happened.
I presume that MidEvil falls somewhere between the EarlyEvil and LateEvil periods?
I could say yes.
But actually it falls between
poor spelling and poor spelling.
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