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- Researchers claim to have found Cleopatra's murdered sister in Turkey [2013]
- Found: the Sister Cleopatra Killed [2009]
- Skeleton of Cleopatra's Murdered Sister Identified [2009]
Posted on 03/15/2009 2:18:56 AM PDT by BlackVeil
We could stop this senseless slaughter, if only we could restrict, register, and license relatives, and only allow possession of relatives after a thorough background check and strict training in realtive safety.
Also, stop the importation of cheap, foreign automatic assault realtives.
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Found: the Sister Cleopatra Killed
The Times (London) | March 15, 2009 | Daniel Foggo
Posted on 03/15/2009 11:07:14 PM PDT by nickcarraway
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2207366/posts
There is a wonderful novel called “The Memoirs of Cleopatra” by Margaret George that sparked my interest in the subject. It’s mostly fiction of course — great fiction — and it details the death of Arsinoe.
More fictional claims that try to pass themselves off as ‘science’. Neither Cleopatra nor her sister nor her mother were of ‘African’ origins. They are basing their this dubious claim that she was ‘mixed’ on the SHAPE of a SKULL that they do not have, not DNA evidence. The crucial skull, on which the ethnic arguments are based, is lost. No skull to conduct facial reconstruction and those they used based upon measurements from a century ago any professional would tell you are bogus. You need the actual skull or at least cast of the skull to conduct facial reconstructions. Their only ‘claim’ that she was ‘African’ is based upon the supposed ‘long shaped skull’. I hate to break it to them but long shaped skulls are also common among many other ethnicities including southern EUROPEANS, the TRUE origins of Cleopatra, her mother and her sister.
Lastly, they are forgetting the fundamental reason WHY her mother COULD NOT have been of ‘African’ or native Egyptian origins: because the only way a Ptolemy inherits the throne was if the mother had a direct blood descedant to the Ptolemiac Dynasty, and a phantom ‘African’ or a native Egyptian woman would NOT have a direct bloodline to the Ptolemiac Dynasty because she would NOT be of Ptolemaic royalty. The Ptolemaic Dynasty followed the matrilinear nature of succession, a system in which one belongs to one’s mother’s lineage; inheritance of property or titles through the female line, and some phantom “African” or native Egyptian DID NOT HAVE lineage of property to the Ptolemaic Dyansty. This is why extensive inbreeding matings occurred in the Ptolemaic Dynasty to prevent pretenders to the throne when they tried to bolster their claims by marriage to a sister. Such marriage though lead to amphimetric among different male relatives over the blood related female relatives of the Greco-Macedonian Dynasties.
You summed it up perfectly. Political Correctness gone amuck. ;-)
When is she going to be brought up on charges, tried, and hung?
The Ptolemaic Dynasty followed the matrilinear nature of succession, a system in which one belongs to one’s mother’s lineage; inheritance of property or titles went thru the female line, and femaled had to have been of Greco-Macedonian lineage or else any children or grandchildren were not viewed as part of the Ptolemaic lineage. Similar to the ancient Hebrew matrilinear system where one can only claim being ‘Jewish’ if ones mother was Jewish. So there is no way Cleopatra, her sister nor her mother were of ‘mixed’ African or native Eygptian origins.
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NO they don’t — no one disputes that the ancient Macedonian were Greek - Macedon was simply a northern border region/kingdom on the Greek peninsula.
Eleni, you are 100% correct, no scholar debated if she is Greek or Macedonian given they are one and the same, because all scholars at least agree the Ptolemies were of Greek-Macedonian origins. This fiticious claims of theirs alone proves all they're after are ratings for their idiotic show. I for one am not watching such a debukle of a tv 'documentary' in where dubious claims are made before their clownish show is even aired.
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