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Thoughts on Urban Survival (Argentinian's first hand experience-When the SHTF)
Frugal's Forums Archive ^ | October 20, 2005 | Ferfal

Posted on 03/14/2009 7:29:25 PM PDT by listenhillary

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Our Democrats just give them cigarettes and money for booze.


21 posted on 03/15/2009 6:00:32 AM PDT by listenhillary (Rahm Emmanuel slip - A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: Clemenza; All; listenhillary

This is nothing new. It began way back when. At some point I will write a thread about my memories of Argentina. Being here now it’s all deja vu to me. I keep warning people but they look at me as if I am nuts. The coup is taking place as we speak but they keep saying “it can’t happen here”, just like jews said in Germany. We are lobsters slowly boiling to a simmer.


22 posted on 03/15/2009 7:08:06 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: listenhillary

Seems years ago pastor David Wilkerson warned the U.S. would have a major crash some time after Argentina’s crash, if I remember correctly. Need to research to be sure. It was some years ago and not his most recent warning (last week).

Will try to find it and post here later tonight hopefully.


23 posted on 03/15/2009 1:26:43 PM PDT by Cedar
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1000 FIRES IN NEW YORK CITY DUE TO RACE RIOTS IN 1993?

From a prophecy David Wilkerson had September 7, 1992:

“I have had recurring visions of over 1,000 fires burning at one time here in New York city. I am convinced race riots will soon explode! New York City is right now a powder keg-ready to blow!...federal and State Welfare cutbacks will be the spark that ignites the fuse. Next year, New York City could have over 100,000 angry men on the streets, enraged because they have been cut off from benefits....Federal troops will have to move in to restore order. New York City will have tanks running down its avenues....Churches will be closed for a season because it will be too dangerous to travel about. Fires will rage everywhere.”

Although Wilkerson set the expiration date of this prophecy himself - “ Next year” (meaning 1993), he now says that this is yet future. This is a common expedient for those who assume themselves to be prophets, moving the goal-posts, hoping that others will forget by then.


24 posted on 03/15/2009 1:34:08 PM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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Here are some quotes from Wilkerson’s book “The Vision” written in 1973:

A Crash is Coming

“The United States government is going to overreact to the confused economical developments.”

“I see a flurry of near-panic decision being made by various government agencies, but these hasty efforts to shore up the economy will backfire.”

“The President of the United States will make one, and possibly two, national radio and TV appearances to reassure the nation that all is well and that the best of economic times is just ahead.”

“WITHOUT A DOUBT, THERE ARE LEAN YEARS AHEAD FULL OF MONETARY CONFUSION AND DESPAIR. THE WORLDS GREATEST ECONOMISTS WILL BE AT A LOSS TO EXPLAIN THE CONFUSION, AND AN INTERNATIONAL CRISIS OF FEAR WILL DEVELOP. A FALSE ECONOMIC BOOM WILL PRECEDE THE RECESSION, BUT IT WILL BE SHORTLIVED.”

“The auto industry is going to be hurt badly. Makers of recreational vehicles are going to get hit very hard. Appliance inventories will pile up, and sales will fall off drastically.”

“Almost every economic indicator will be gloomy. It will be spotty at first, but will eventually affect nearly all industry. The worlds greatest economists will be at a loss to explain it.”

“There is worldwide economic confusion just ahead. In my vision, this is the clearest thing I have seen. Many praying people now share this very same vision.”

“Not only is the American dollar headed for deep trouble, but so are all other world currencies. I see total economic confusion striking Europe first and then affecting Japan, the United States, Canada, and all other nations shortly thereafter.”

“It is not really a depression I see coming, but a recession of such magnitude that it will affect the lifestyle of nearly every wage earner in America and around the world. Countries that now control huge amounts of Western currency are going to be in very deep trouble also. Arab countries will especially be hurt.”

“I believe we are going to witness the bankruptcies of some of this nation’s major and most popular corporations. I see tremendous difficulty arising for credit corporations. There are going to be many people unable to pay off their heavy obligations to major credit card companies, causing near-chaos.”

“Thousands of small businesses will also be forced into bankruptcies. Three, and possibly four, of the major religious denominations will be forced to operate with a skeleton organization due to a lack of funds. More than a few churches are going to have to pull back. All but a few of the radio and television ministries will have to be abandoned.”

“Tight money will trigger a wave of uncertainty and fear. Those who have money will hold it in reserve.”


25 posted on 03/15/2009 10:49:17 PM PDT by Cedar
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More by David Wilkerson (written in 1973, same book):

“I see many of the last Christians who were once lovers of God becoming shipwrecked by their obsessive love for pleasure. Lovers of God find no pleasure in drugs, illegitimate sex, alcohol, tobacco or smut. The devil knows that. Most of these fleshly pleasures offend and repulse the Christian.”

“I see thousands of Christians sitting in theaters exposing themselves to degrading influences they once abhorred. They have not given themselves over to any particular sin but they have become very comfortable in their addiction to off-color movies, numerous parties, socials and wine-tasting. They really love God but they love their pleasures even more. They are not really sinners before God, just strangers to Him. They have become so busy swinging and trying to live a liberated Christian life that they have changed drastically without knowing what they have become.”

“Christians have become social gadabouts who can’t find one hour any more to talk to God in a secret closet of prayer.”


26 posted on 03/15/2009 10:53:57 PM PDT by Cedar
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To: listenhillary

It’s a great read, but who here can help authenticate it?


27 posted on 03/15/2009 10:58:49 PM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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Ferfal is becoming well-read these days.


28 posted on 03/15/2009 10:59:50 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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I would take what I could get out of it with ideas for my own survival. It could be a total work of fiction I guess.


29 posted on 03/16/2009 3:37:05 AM PDT by listenhillary (Rahm Emmanuel slip - A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.)
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Two points that I found interesting: 1) Gold coins and bars not being worth more than junk gold jewelry in a barter scenario, as the people you will be bartering with have no reliable way to assess the real gold content of your stuff.

2) The value of a good pistol, since you can have it on you as you go about your business (unlike a rifle or shotgun)

30 posted on 03/16/2009 5:59:30 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: listenhillary
The best alarm system anyone can have in a farm are dogs. But dogs can get killed and poisoned.

I've got a donkey that will kick the shit out of anyone that tries to trespass. Just ask the fool who tried to steal two cans of diesel fuel from me last year.

31 posted on 03/16/2009 6:07:39 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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1) Gold coins and bars not being worth more than junk gold jewelry in a barter scenario, as the people you will be bartering with have no reliable way to assess the real gold content of your stuff.


Coins are hard to fake, and anyone with a small scale and calipers can tell a fake easily. Jewelry is tougher, but familiar coins are an excellent means of trusted exchange.


32 posted on 03/16/2009 7:37:54 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Obamanomics="Trickle-up Poverty")
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I heard folks say guinea fowl or geese if you live where you can have them
33 posted on 03/17/2009 4:29:33 PM PDT by Charlespg
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