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Pentagon plans blimp to spy from new heights
LA Times ^ | 13 Mar 2009 | Julian E. Barnes

Posted on 03/13/2009 12:30:19 PM PDT by BGHater

The giant dirigible would use radar to closely and constantly monitor activity on the ground from 65,000 feet.

The Pentagon said Thursday that it intends to spend $400 million to develop a giant dirigible that will float 65,000 feet above the Earth for 10 years, providing unblinking and intricate radar surveillance of the vehicles, planes and even people below.

"It is absolutely revolutionary," Werner J.A. Dahm, chief scientist for the Air Force, said of the proposed unmanned airship -- describing it as a cross between a satellite and a spy plane.

The 450-foot-long craft would give the U.S. military a better understanding of an adversary's movements, habits and tactics, officials said. And the ability to constantly monitor small movements in a wide area -- the Afghanistan- Pakistan border, for example -- would dramatically improve military intelligence.

"It is constant surveillance, uninterrupted," Dahm said. "When you only have a short-time view -- whether it is a few hours or a few days -- that is not enough to put the picture together."

The project reflects a shift in Pentagon planning and spending priorities under Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates, who has urged the military services to improve intelligence and surveillance operations while cutting high-tech weaponry costs.


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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: blimp; pentagon; spy; surveillance; usaf
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To: BGHater

eye in the sky

Uh,, for 400 million, can they make it stealth too? I wonder what kind of defense systems it will use?


41 posted on 03/13/2009 1:30:29 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

That’s what I thought, but I’m no expert on modern AA weapons systems.


42 posted on 03/13/2009 1:30:34 PM PDT by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: HiJinx

ICE already uses one down around the Yuma Proving Grounds looking for illegals.


43 posted on 03/13/2009 1:30:43 PM PDT by Mashood
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

“Won’t OBozo’s defense spending cuts nip this in the bud?”

No, it can be used for domestic surveillance.


44 posted on 03/13/2009 1:31:43 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: BGHater

They should use hydrogen to get it aloft. They’ll need MUCH less of it than they will helium.

And what could possibly go wrong?

;^)


45 posted on 03/13/2009 1:31:51 PM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: theDentist

More likely the Mid-West than the Middle East!


46 posted on 03/13/2009 1:32:25 PM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: blueplum

Obviously worried the satellites will be taken down by something. Supposedly in the next year or two solar flares are predicted to be bad, like when they knocked out power in parts of Canada.


47 posted on 03/13/2009 1:32:28 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: stuartcr
I think most have a ceiling of 10-15K meters.

Probably because that is where they are typically useful. Even amateur rocket enthusiasts have built and flown rockets to way over 65,000 feet. Unless the blimp is very stealthy, which is hard to pull off when you have a radar on board, the blimp is just a sitting duck for any semi-modern military power.

Probably the blimps would only be deployed in places where they would be safe from attack - spying on civilians, or low tech adversaries. They should be great for tracking down Taliban bozos.

48 posted on 03/13/2009 1:32:33 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Secret Agent Man

They are also probably thinking post-shuttle and having fewer launch vehicles to send up replacements/new ones.


49 posted on 03/13/2009 1:33:09 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: txnativegop

I’m not either but if missiles could hit the U2 plane around the 60,000+ ft mark back in the 1960s, they can still hit them today.


50 posted on 03/13/2009 1:34:39 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I guess it will be built with stealth technology.

A 450 ft long stealth blimp, wonder how much that would cost per copy?


51 posted on 03/13/2009 1:37:21 PM PDT by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: txnativegop

With all that helium, you could talk like a chipmunk for decades...


52 posted on 03/13/2009 1:39:23 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
makes me think of:


53 posted on 03/13/2009 1:45:24 PM PDT by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: Secret Agent Man

The U2 was shot down by a SA-2, in service since 1957 and with known range up to 66,000 ft. Syria, Iran, China, all the bad guys have these. This thing cannot survive a modern battlefield. Its only use would be domestic surveillance. Is an SA-2 covered by the 2nd Ammendment?


54 posted on 03/13/2009 1:48:07 PM PDT by azcap
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To: BGHater

They should name them the Kennedy Class blimps.


55 posted on 03/13/2009 1:49:30 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: SJSAMPLE
Even geosyncronous orbits are rarely where you need them.

DirecTV seems to have figured it out somehow.

56 posted on 03/13/2009 1:50:39 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If Liberals would pay their taxes, there would be no deficit..)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Sure, they stay in a specific position.
At 35,000 km.

Think that will work with a spy satellite?


57 posted on 03/13/2009 1:53:38 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Secret Agent Man
Yes, can easily be shot down with missiles.

ie it would be a super expensive target for our enemies and international juvenile delinquents.

58 posted on 03/13/2009 1:54:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: evets
It's invisible... (I've seen it.)

If only you knew.

59 posted on 03/13/2009 1:57:31 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob (Save the Hispaniolan Solenodon!)
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To: azcap

Most of the worlds untapped wealth, people, areas to grow in, and most killing occur in third world dumps.

It would be nice to have a low cost platform.


60 posted on 03/13/2009 2:00:41 PM PDT by Leisler
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