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Apple's Safari will fall first at hacker contest, past winner predicts
Computer World ^ | March 3rd | Gregg Keizer

Posted on 03/07/2009 3:51:48 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

Apple Inc.'s Safari is the juiciest target in the upcoming PWN2OWN hacking contest, last year's winner predicted today.

"It's an easy target," said Charlie Miller, the vulnerability researcher who last year walked off with a $10,000 cash prize for breaking into an Apple laptop just a few minutes into the contest. PWNOWN is slated for its third appearance at the CanSecWest security conference later this month in Vancouver, British Columbia.

"It might be because I'm biased about the things I'm good at, but it's the easiest browser [to hack]," Miller said.

PWN2OWN's sponsor, 3Com Inc.'s TippingPoint unit, will pay $5,000 for each new bug successfully exploited in Safari, Microsoft Corp.'s Internet Explorer 8, Mozilla Corp.'s Firefox or Google Inc.'s Chrome. IE8, Firefox and Chrome will be running on a Sony notebook powered by Windows 7, Microsoft's still-under-construction operating system, while Safari and Firefox will be available on a MacBook.

"Apple's products are really friendly to users, and Safari is designed to handle anything, including all kinds of file formats," said Miller. "With a lot of functionality comes the increased chance of bugs. The more complex software is, the less secure it is."

(Excerpt) Read more at computerworld.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: apple; baneriklatranyi; bestofiggle; ilovebillgates; iwanthim; iwanthimbad; microsoftfanboys; mssackcloth; safari; windohs; worstofiggle
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To: Blue Highway

Yes, too much smug.

:-)


101 posted on 03/08/2009 10:54:04 AM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)
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To: LeGrande

Like I said (to someone else maybe you”) pick up the hardware of your choice. Then for $350 an hour I will slap it all together.


102 posted on 03/08/2009 11:09:20 AM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)
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To: JSteff
Like I said (to someone else maybe you”) pick up the hardware of your choice. Then for $350 an hour I will slap it all together.

You were the one bragging that you could put a great computer system together for $400. If your time is worth $350 an hour I call BS on your $400 system.

103 posted on 03/08/2009 11:28:58 AM PDT by LeGrande (I once heard a smart man say that you canÂ’t reason someone out of something that they didnÂ’t reaso)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Stallman isn’t asking for your money, just your support in putting American businesses out of business, which you are faithfully assisting with.


104 posted on 03/08/2009 11:29:41 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (In God We Trust)
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To: Swordmaker

I used to do Field service tech support for Unisys and replaced MANY LCD screens.
One person could be fine for the life of the laptop. Other unlucky people would have their screens crap out multiple times.
Seemed like a luck of the draw.
They got theirs replaced for free.
ALWAYS get the extended warranty when buying an LCD panel, especialy laptops and tv’s.
Unless you actually know how easy it is to replace and where to find them the $$$$ might make it not even worth it.

Of course none of them were the mighty Apple so i have no idea what their fail rate is.
It seemed Samsung was the Market leader in most of the screens i had to change.

When Unisys got that Dell contract it was the beginning of the end.
Man did that suck.
I think they are trading now at about 33 cents a share.
Down from about 50 bucks when i was there.


105 posted on 03/08/2009 11:38:33 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: Swordmaker

until recently i had no idea intel still made Xeon.
I’m out of the loop now.
They rock.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/


106 posted on 03/08/2009 11:50:51 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: Swordmaker

Using that Passmark CPU test just now i was able to score a
3948 with my Q6600 2.4 OC’d to 3.4.
Seems like a great score till you read those Xeon numbers.
See that AMD on the top?
Holy crap!!


107 posted on 03/08/2009 12:01:15 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: Swordmaker; JSteff
Now, build that computer into the back of a 20" LCD screen, complete with Firewire 800, BlueTooth, WIFI, and Gigabit Ethernet...and make it completely silent in operation. What does it cost to make now? ;^)>

FRiend, I think you assumed I was participating in the "Apple vs PC wars". Not so. I was simply responding that my cost to build came in higher than Jsteff's.

In response to your comment, I would have to be able to get those components in the retail market to assess their cost to build. Since I can't, the question is really moot.

However, other than the "completely silent" (really?, completely? not even a whisper?), I could live with the other components not being in an integrated package, if I chose to assemble such a group of hardware.

An integrated package such as you describe is certainly good for eliminating desk clutter, but for me, the down side would be disassembly and repairability, should a failure occur.

Also, I will be upgrading my monitor screen and will go with a 22" or 24" replacement. Upgrading such an integrated package has more challenges and in some cases is a lock-in to older technology.

BTW, I have considered Apple hardware, but if I went that route, I would not get the integrated product, and would go with their separate mainbox, monitor, etc. product.

Hope you're having a good weekend FRiend, regardless of what you are using to send the 1's and 0's to FR.

108 posted on 03/08/2009 12:09:35 PM PDT by Col Freeper (FR is a smorgasbord of Conservative thoughts and ideas - dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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To: LeGrande
Yea i’m no computer wiz at all but i would sure like to learn how to make my sisters computer kid proof.
I'm over there like every month.
Wait, a month? That would be lucky.
Have to learn how to turn everything “Off”
gotta learn privileges.

Today they F’ed up the new Samsung color laser printer i got them for Christmas for only 80 bucks, newegg refurbished.
Turns out they went through a years supply of toner in 2 months. kids were printing everything full color, Stacks of Hannah Montanna and Hotwheels color prints everywhere.
goop all over the keyboard.
Ugh.

109 posted on 03/08/2009 12:18:57 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: mowowie; JSteff
goop all over the keyboard.

There is a limit to what can be avoided : (

Why don't you have JSteff make you a half a dozen of his $400 dollar computers, give each person their own computer and tell them that they are responsible to learn how to deal with it and take care of it.

110 posted on 03/08/2009 12:40:44 PM PDT by LeGrande (I once heard a smart man say that you canÂ’t reason someone out of something that they didnÂ’t reaso)
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To: LeGrande

Thats a good idea.

It gets better than that.
I built mom a complete PC for 150 bucks from newegg using Intels New Dual-Atom processor motherboard for X-Mas.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121359
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154084
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145180

Not the most smoking PC out there but it sure gets the job done.
Very quite and uses like 10 watts of power.


111 posted on 03/08/2009 1:28:23 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: Golden Eagle

Your hard on for Stallman is your own.


112 posted on 03/08/2009 1:30:39 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (The media are WINOs - Watchdogs in name only)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I’m just pointing out the danger of the guy, which you seemingly are aware of considering your sensitivity of being associated with him, but there’s no doubt you’re carrying out the exact mission his disciples do of attacking the capitalist companies he’s opposed to so that his freeware product will thrive instead. You need to either stop trying to make his communist plans come true by creating all these threads attacking these businesses, or give us some better reasons on why you’re doing so. Claiming it’s because Apple and Microsoft are both owned by leftists is bogus, not only because they’re actually owned by shareholders, but you’re following the exact guidelines of the biggest anti-capitalist commie in tech yourself, who wants all of our businesses destroyed and replaced with a software tax on everyone instead.


113 posted on 03/08/2009 1:56:41 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (In God We Trust)
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To: mowowie

“Atom 330” processor...... Can you give me an idea what it is comparable to. And e2180 perhaps? Or a dual core celeron???


114 posted on 03/08/2009 3:18:09 PM PDT by dennisw (Archimedes--- Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum to place it, and I shall move the Earth)
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To: Golden Eagle

————I’m just pointing out the danger of the guy-————

You’ve gone way beyond that and into hard on territory.

This thread did not start out in any form as a stallman thread, and look where you’ve driven it.


115 posted on 03/08/2009 3:18:10 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (The media are WINOs - Watchdogs in name only)
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To: mowowie

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/D945GCLF2_atom_330/


116 posted on 03/08/2009 3:19:51 PM PDT by dennisw (Archimedes--- Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum to place it, and I shall move the Earth)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I’m never going to let up on Stallman and his FSF/GNU organizations, he’s a green party anti-capitalist leftist that more people need to know about, so they can be on the lookout for those like him that would like to see the existing US software companies put out of business so we can all be taxed for his “free software” instead. Don’t you think other’s should know?

From “The GNU Manifesto”:

Programmers need to make a living somehow...All sorts of development can be funded with a Software Tax. Suppose everyone who buys a computer has to pay x percent of the price as a software tax. The government gives this to an agency like the NSF to spend on software development.

But if the computer buyer makes a donation to software development himself, he can take a credit against the tax. He can donate to the project of his own choosing—often, chosen because he hopes to use the results when it is done. He can take a credit for any amount of donation up to the total tax he had to pay.

The total tax rate could be decided by a vote of the payers of the tax, weighted according to the amount they will be taxed on.

The consequences:

The computer-using community supports software development.

This community decides what level of support is needed.

Users who care which projects their share is spent on can choose this for themselves.

In the long run, making programs free is a step toward the post-scarcity world, where nobody will have to work very hard just to make a living. People will be free to devote themselves to activities that are fun, such as programming, after spending the necessary ten hours a week on required tasks such as legislation, family counseling, robot repair and asteroid prospecting. There will be no need to be able to make a living from programming.


117 posted on 03/08/2009 3:49:16 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (In God We Trust)
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To: Golden Eagle
--------------------let up on Stallman----------------------


118 posted on 03/08/2009 3:57:54 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (The media are WINOs - Watchdogs in name only)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
--------------------let up on Stallman----------------------

I'll be more than happy to, just as soon as you quit creating so many threads attacking the US software companies he and his disciples oppose. Thanks and have a good evening.

119 posted on 03/08/2009 4:05:08 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (In God We Trust)
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To: Golden Eagle

You don’t recognize even your own words, do you?


120 posted on 03/08/2009 4:07:15 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (The media are WINOs - Watchdogs in name only)
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