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Why does the USA have such a large conventional military?

Posted on 03/06/2009 2:59:24 AM PST by linbiao123

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To: linbiao123
Go take a course in critical thinking. You clearly need it noobie.
41 posted on 03/06/2009 4:44:59 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (You want me to buy heavy metal? Metallica?)
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To: GRRRRR
So we can make sure the ONLY FREE COUNTRY can stay free from enemies, both foreign and DOMESTIC...

What does Switzerland have to do with this?

42 posted on 03/06/2009 4:47:40 AM PST by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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To: linbiao123
You could have saved yourself a lot of typing and shortened this to

"I have no experience with a real world."

43 posted on 03/06/2009 4:55:37 AM PST by Lucretia Borgia (I will be happy to show Obama the same respect the Democrats gave Reagan, Bush, and Palin.)
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To: linbiao123

The question is somewhat ambiguous but I will attempt to help with what I suspect is the thought behind it.
Since WW2 the United States has felt that the military should be able to force project anywhere, anytime, in any conditions. While this is an admirable goal, it is expensive and requires a large force. The second issue is that we have since WW2 felt we would have to fight at least two simultaneous regional conflicts. This does not necessarily mean Iraq and Afghanistan. It really means something like the Middle East and sub Asia or Europe and the pacific. To make this work the military has specific units trained for contingencies in certain land mass types. I’m thinking of units like the 10th Mountain in Ft Drum or the Air Force units stationed in Alaska. This increases the size of the military.
Additionally, thinking about the Navy, if you want a carrier, you really want a carrier, but the carrier has to be protected by a given amount of support units. And how about the logistics trail to get beans, bullets, and bacon to the fighting man at the front. All this is expensive and increases the size and composition of the military. Let me cite one big change since WW2 that reflects this thinking - In WW2 the army had railroad units, truck units, and large stevedore units to move men and equipment from the point of embarkation to the front. In Iraq currently, quite a bit of the trucking is done by civilian contractors (at a cost) to keep the size of the military down. However on this specifically it has had the interesting side effect of requiring more military “protection” than the old army trucking units which provided their own. I’m not saying this is good or bad but pointing out how even small changes have ripple effects on military manpower.
If we as the American people though our elected officials (as inept as most are) decide that the requirements for the military can be scaled back – there can be a reduction in the size. But the military in war is not something you want to ask to do more with less. You want to show up with overwhelming firepower and kill everything in site.

Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. It comes into us at midnight very clean. It’s perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we’ve learned something from yesterday. - John Wayne


44 posted on 03/06/2009 5:02:57 AM PST by Patrsup
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To: linbiao123

hello and welcome to free republic!

Are you new to the obama adminstration?

being in charge of defense spending must be an awesome job.

haven’t your texbooks arrived yet from Harvard?

good luck with defending the free world, and all that


45 posted on 03/06/2009 5:30:40 AM PST by silverleaf (Freedom's just another word for "nothing left to lose")
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To: driftdiver
Actually its a bit small for the current tasks.

Anyone with recent military experience would agree with you. Some guys are on a fourth or fifth one-year tour of the middle east. It's very tough on both men and equipment. It's also extremely tough on the family members - many of whom have young children that don't even remember what their dad or mom looks like.

I remember when Carter was President. I was assigned to a mobile radar unit and we were gone more than we were in garrison. One year we went to Denmark and spent three months during the winter - came back to garrison for two weeks and then went to Saudi for six months during the summer.

Our equipment was completely worn out - but we couldn't take it out of service for maintenance because we couldn't function without it. We were behind on all our admin work - like writing personnel appraisals and rewriting procedures, regulations, and checklists so when we were in garrison we spent 18 hour days trying to fix equipment, resupply parts, and catch up on admin chores.

In the 90s the military downsized. I was in a 14-person unit that developed training for the F-15. We were merged with a larger unit and lost our admin support and some of our instructor slots. Two years later we merged with another unit and lost even more slots. After the dust settled we had six people with more taskings than we had as a 14 person unit. We worked nights and weekends just to try to keep up.

The pilots we had assigned were happy to be there. Most had come from Eglin or Langley operational units and would spend three months deployed to Saudi and come back for a few weeks and then go to the Balkans for another three months. They continued this type of rotation until the people and the airplanes were worn out.

Anyone who thinks the military is over staffed is ignorant.

46 posted on 03/06/2009 5:36:44 AM PST by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
...and no responses to any of the posts..smells to me of drive-by troll..

I smelled it immediately after reading the title and it being posted as a vanity piece.

Keep an eye on this one if he/she doesn't get banned today.

47 posted on 03/06/2009 5:40:35 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: topher
I think it has something to do with the murder/slaughter of 5 million Jewish people in World War II.

And the fact that she has her back to the sea, and there are people on three sides of her who would like to finish the job Hitler started.

Never again they say, and they mean it.

48 posted on 03/06/2009 5:59:56 AM PST by AFreeBird
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To: linbiao123
Why does the US have such a large conventional military?

To allow you the freedom to post stupid questions and take up bandwidth.

49 posted on 03/06/2009 6:05:21 AM PST by TADSLOS ( Join the Conservative Revolution! http://falconparty.com/)
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To: linbiao123

Cause it’s a mad, mad, mad, mad, world.


50 posted on 03/06/2009 6:16:13 AM PST by devistate one four (Impatiently waiting for the next tea party! Tet '68)
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To: Rider on the Rain
FYI: I have no first hand experience with a real world military or weapons development.
That says it all. Whay not educate yourself instead of posting preposterous assumptions and invalid recommendations?

Can you think of a better way to get quickly and factually educated than to post a direct question on FR?

51 posted on 03/06/2009 6:30:15 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: linbiao123

To pizz people like you off. Why else?


52 posted on 03/06/2009 6:30:47 AM PST by papasmurf (Impeach the illegal bastard!)
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To: Patrsup

While I agree with the general sentiment of “we want to project force anywhere, anytime,” I think a lot of people are hung up on a fantasy confrontation with Russian and China still. Attacking anything other than a third-world country like Iraq or Afghanistan is either going to be a handful of special-ops guys or a volley of nukes. There’s no way in heck we’re ever going to be fighting a column of russian tanks, or facing down a million chinese with ak-47’s from across the battlefield. We’re going to turn them into a glass parking lot (and they’ll try to do it to us in return).


53 posted on 03/06/2009 6:32:23 AM PST by OH4life
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To: linbiao123
It is required by FReeper Secret Code Rule # 25, that all n00bs Listening to this before posting.
54 posted on 03/06/2009 6:39:12 AM PST by papasmurf (Impeach the illegal bastard!)
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To: linbiao123
Welcome to FR. You'll find that once you get past the less polite knee-jerk responses, you'll get more information and logic here than anywhere else in the global media.

You raise an interesting point, and one that is open and obvious. For many years, we've spent more on our military than the next several largest nations combined! Americans seem to not mind this very much, I think, because we not only want to make sure that our homes are well-protected from those who want to destroy what we have, but we also want to be able to help others in need, anywhere in the world. We also have obligations to provide most of the military protection for many other nations (Japan, Germany, South Korea, Iraq, etc), and most of those nations ardently oppose any notions of our military leaving (because then their governments would have to spend billions on building a military, rather than spending those billions on their social programs).

Americans are generally happy to allow this, because it increases our security, helps other nations have a better quality of life, and keeps the status quo... which is usually among the top priorities for America, since we've enjoyed the "top spot" in the world for several decades now.

I'll look forward to your replies.

55 posted on 03/06/2009 6:41:40 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: linbiao123

Why are so many Chinese going to school in America?


56 posted on 03/06/2009 6:42:52 AM PST by takenoprisoner
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To: linbiao123

Doctrine used to be the ability to fight on two major fronts plus a little one. We are not able to handle even that expected task anymore.


57 posted on 03/06/2009 6:43:49 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: linbiao123
Why does the USA have such a large conventional military?

Why did you choose a former Mao heir apparent as your screen name?

58 posted on 03/06/2009 6:45:37 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: linbiao123
I do not think the smaller military would be able to hold all of Iraq.

We never wanted to HOLD Iraq. We wanted to secure it and return it to Iraqi control ASAP. That task is almost complete thanks to the surge (which was YEARS late in coming).

59 posted on 03/06/2009 6:46:51 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

“..smells to me of drive-by troll..”

And maybe from China, too.


60 posted on 03/06/2009 6:47:56 AM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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