Posted on 03/05/2009 7:54:35 PM PST by Golden Eagle
The White House press office announced today that Vivek Kundra, the current chief technology officer of Washington DC, will be assuming the position of Federal Chief Information Officer (CIO) at the White House.
The appointment of a top CIO is another first: the position did not exist in any previous administrations. Kundra will also have final say on government technology purchases , and will have the authority to overrule his peers at subordinate agencies.
(Excerpt) Read more at technologizer.com ...
More likely is they start requiring selection of open source products for critical government programs, including defense, where the source code is released under a license that allows infinite copy and distribution after a single purchase by anyone:
And you seriously expect that to be the case with Obama's 30 year old Indian selectee? More importantly are the policies that Obama is interested in implementing himself, which are in direct conflict with the kinds of policies Bush would have wanted implemented, but with this selection we're left having to assume the worst of the worst.
Wrong, 66% is much more like it, and we’re still talking only ~20 years in the US since he’s not even 35 yet.
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He immigrated when he was 11 dude, a kid... its not like he got off the boat 5 years ago... Its one thing to be against illegal immigration but picking on immigrants period is ugly, even for you..
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“Get real, like Obama he’s a big open source proponent or he would have never gotten this job.”
Actually he is most know for pushing things like Google which is for the most part a closed source shop (regarding their code). While google uses allot of open source they do not release too much of their own code.
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“it’s time you face the facts and either defend this philosophy or begin to admit it’s dangers, but claiming it’s not central to this appointment is bogus.”
Can I take this to mean you are unable to produce any policy he had when heading other entities in which he released source code that had previously been closed?
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“A search of “Vivek Kundra” and “open source” combined returned 15,000 results.”
And a search of “Vivek Kundra” and “Microsoft” combined for over 31,000 results! I guess by your standard he is twice the MS pusher that he is a Open Source Pusher... But then again a search for “Vivek Kundra” and “Closed Source” only turns up about 5,000... I guess:
He is three times more likely to push open source than closed source unless the closed source is Microsoft in which case he is twice as likely to push the source than open source and six times more likely to push Microsoft’s closed source than other closed source....
Isn’t using ‘# of hits’ to prove my point fun?
And you seriously expect that to be the case with Obama’s 30 year old Indian selectee?
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Legal Immigrants who go through the citizenship process are *not* Indians, they are Americans! quit it with the race baiting..
So you're saying this was the best available candidate for this job with vast control of the US government technology? Or just that one's nation of birth and first language can never have any bearing on whether one is an acceptable candidate for high level government positions? I disagree with both of those claims, as would most people, and if you're trying to thread the needle you're going to have to be a whole lot more specific about what is and is not acceptable to you then we can take it from there, but you might as well admit that his nationality is a legitimate question considering his age and the authority of this position.
a search for “Vivek Kundra” and “Closed Source” only turns up about 5,000
Because he's an open source proponent, your inference that he isn't is ridiculous.
So can I use your “open source ping list” for this thread, or does it not really adhere to the principles of “open source”, and is therefore actually only controlled by you?
Same rules as always, you may use the list but you may not call it an OSS ping. I retain naming rights!
“So you’re saying this was the best available candidate for this job with vast control of the US government technology?”
Nope I never said that what I sad was
N3WBI3: “I don’t know anything about this guy but if Obama picked him he is probably screw up regardless of what software he pushes.”
N3WBI3: “Obviously a guy with little serious security background. *anything* with personal information of *any* American citizen needs to be private by default”
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My point is that if he is a screw up it has nothing to do with the fact he is a *legal* immigrant and a *us* citizen and has been for more years than he has been the citizen of any other nation.
Ping using N3WBi3’s list, if you want to be removed from it you should ask him to close source it, as he allows the use of it so long as I don’t use his trademarked name. Thanks!
First, notice that this is an off-the-shelf testing system, not itself software that will be developed by the military or used in the missile. Should the military develop any software that runs on this system in the process of testing, that software would not be subject to the terms of the GPL by virtue of the system being GPL. There are currently plenty of examples of closed-source, proprietary software running on Linux.
But let’s say the military actually modifies this GPL system itself. GPL only requires giving up source code to those you distribute GPL software to. No distribution, no source code given up. It can remain a military secret.
The real advantage of the GPL to the military is the lack of restrictive licenses. The military can do whatever it wants with GPL software without asking anyone, it just has to keep what it develops to itself (which I believe is your whole point of not giving away technology).
So you're perfectly fine with a ~30 year old who was born in a foreign country, whose first language is Somalian, being instantly put in charge of all IT in the entire US government? It sure sounds like it but try finally answering the question. Thanks.
Also please keep in mind if you are intentionally annoying members of this list in hopes to get them to quit the admin might be interested...
Do *not* put my name behind any of your posting...
Thanks for the ping GE, interesting article.
GE, why not just start a ping list and anyone who wants off can request it.
It has "real time" capability, that didn't exist at this level in the open source products but until this product was developed, which is now held to the same freely distributable license.
let’s say the military actually modifies this GPL system itself. GPL only requires giving up source code to those you distribute GPL software to
All it takes is one person who legally received delivery of the software, then they can legally create as many copies of it they like, and give it to anyone they like, which is exactly how it's designed - to facilitate rapid transfer. For example, if it's provided to a (possibly temporary) US allay, they can then legally provide infinite copies to whoever they like. Surely you're aware of these mass proliferation principles the software license was specifically designed to facilitate?
Lets separate this our shall we, after all aggregation of positions with intent to malign a person is a pretty low class debate tactic.
“So you’re perfectly fine with a ~30 year”
NEWBI3: “I would think a 34yo is hardly old enough to qualify for such a position.”
“as born in a foreign country, whose first language is Somalian”
These are one and the same he was born in a foreign nation whos first language is not English... BTW his first language is Swahili *NOT* Somali and he did not live in Somalia at any point in his life.
All of this is besides the fact as I consider someone who legally immigrates to this nation and goes through the citizenship process to be as qualified for any position as I am save those with ‘natual born’ or ‘native born’ constitutional requirement.
You know full well my Wife immigrated here when she was 3 and thusly English was not her first language. I know you take pleasure in demeaning immigrants to take pot shots at people around here but you really should knock it off.
Because his purpose is not to inform but to tear down.. GE is the FUD machine of Free Republic..
In this thread alone he has taken a man who to the best of my knowledge has not in his life published one piece of Open Source software (let alone Open Sourced government code at any level) and tied him to Open Source with a side of attacking all immigrants as being unamerican.
You said I could use it, so long as I didn’t call it an “open source ping”, then you still pinged the Moderator? You said it was an open source ping list, but apparently you don’t actually believe in sharing things with others, like our open source ping list supposedly stands for. You even said I could use then then complained when I did.
“You said I could use it, so long as I didn’t call it an “open source ping”, then you still pinged the Moderator?”
Dude if I wanted to slip ping the mod I would have reported abuse *not* put it there for all to see. Your post is aimed at harming my ping list. My belief was you woul ping people into this thread *not* that you would ping out with the intent to annoy them and or get me to close it up so you can yuck it up.
You have been through this with the mod before and I had thought you learned your lesson.
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“You said it was an open source ping list, but apparently you don’t actually believe in sharing things with others, like our open source ping list supposedly stands for.”
Its right there for you to use, SWC had a very helpful suggestion, use it to start your own ping list and ask people to ‘opt off’ of it. Open source does not mean you get to libel and annoy *me* or anyone else on free republic.
I did nothing of the sort. I said a ~30 year old from a foreign country was not qualified to hold this position which immediately set you off. That may be your opinion but attacking me for questioning his background and experience is not making your case that his background is completely off limits.
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