Posted on 03/05/2009 7:20:14 PM PST by MindBender26
Re: “I think it is some of each. They will continue to throw money down the toilet and regulate other companies into the same condition. I also think it is a planned Cloward-Piven strategy to create the crisis, blame it on capitalism and cure the “problem too important to waste” with the same cure they want for the orchistrated crisis of global warming —— Socialism.”
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I agree with you — conditions were ripe for Obama and his team to jump in and “cure” the problems too big to be squandered.
More and more it seems people are starting to “get it.” Now what do we do about it? Obama and pals are moving as breakneck speed to remake the US the way they want it. It’s time for many of us to stop shrugging and get in his way!
I believe more and more that 0bama and company want to destroy America as we know it. I believe that he can be stopped, and part of the reason is a flaw in their approach. The impression I get from reading about the Cloward-Piven strategy or Alinsky is that the intent is to bring down the system from the outside or by subversive means. Bringing down the house when they are in charge can lead to backlash against them, not some straw man or their enemies. They are wedded to their ideology, and their ideology does not apply in the same way when they are already in charge, and enough people are informed as to what is going on. This is where we come in. We cannot give in as if the triumph of socialism is a given. We must stand our ground and make sure that the blame and backlash falls where it belongs.
Helen Keller would have seen him for what he is. She was a socialist.
It’s like Obama and his administration is England, it’s 1776 all over again and we’re the colonists ... Join Or Die ...
The Chinese plan by decades..., we "plan" week to week!!!
I’m pretty sure we’re still deleveraging from the ridiculous real-estate bubble we ran up from like 2002-2007. Saying “OMG Obama’s been in office a month and the dow isn’t over 20,000 yet!!!?!?!” just makes people sound silly. This isn’t any more Obama’s fault than the tech bubble bursting at the beginning of 2001 had anything to do with Bush.
Everyone calm down, take a step back, realize the economy goes through cycles. We way overshot on the upside, we’ll probably way overshoot on the downside. Even if Ayn Rand was President right now, the economy would be doing just as crappy because we still have a fair amount of deleveraging to do.
People can have whatever reasons they want for the market drops. The fact is when the fundamental basics of the market start to improve, and they will start to improve, the market will take off like a rocket because there are some of the best bargains of a lifetime out there right now. GM at $1 a share? I may buy 1000 shares in the morning. Same with CITI at $1.
The market couldn’t give a fat rat’s butt about Obama or any other politician. The profit motive has no conscience and it has no politics. And financial survival instincts say stay the hell out of the market until the financial environment improves. And, it will improve.
Exactly. Everything is going as planned to destroy America.
The GOP and Juan McCain do not have a clue.
Yeah...but almost 64 MILLION people voted for him. He got the highest vote total in history.
It's like we're living in a Twilight Zone movie.
Good post!
you got that right!
Re: “....Everyone calm down, take a step back, realize the economy goes through cycles. We way overshot on the upside, we’ll probably way overshoot on the downside. Even if Ayn Rand was President right now, the economy would be doing just as crappy because we still have a fair amount of deleveraging to do.”
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Uh huh... sure — calming down is all we need do — while your boy stomps all over us and the US. No thanks!
Oh, and welcome to FR, comrade!
The series of events only makes sense if it is by design. It is what might be called the “softening-up” process....getting our minds right, so to speak.
After another 1,000 points of the DOW they might say, “The Americans have had enough.” This is about the redistribution of wealth to people who perceive that they have been wrongs is all about. Mr.Obama is doing what he has been told to do. Yesterday, obama referenced the market saying the “Purchace/Earnings ratio” would correct. This is the man ‘in charge’ of repairing the economy. There is no metric used by economists referrec to as the “Purchace/Earnings ratio”...there is a “P/E ratio or “Price to Earnings” ratio. This is the guy in charge of this economy. He does not know shit-from-rainwater about the ecomomy....the bastard reads a telepromptor for a living.....even in press conferences/.
It is about people recognizing that Obama’s plans are damaging to business and people that are working in businesses. Penalizing the people that do the work, that pay the taxes. How can you be the enemy (because you work or employ people) and be the good guy Obama wants to help, at the same time? Especially if you’re in a protected or victim class?
Black female employer? Both evil and victim. One hand slaps you down, the other stretched out to help you back up. People are getting agitated. One demographic they belong in is ‘the problem’ the other they’re the good guy. It’s a mixed message.
Of course, white guys like me who aren’t in any good group (per Obama) see throug the Orwellian/Animal Farm/Marxist lies and never bought into it in the first place.
Obama is every bit of what I expected. I knew who and what he was back in late 2007.
I told everyone I knew (liberal or conservative) about his associations, duplicity, and tactics. The problem came about when dreamy-eyed Republicans fell for the hope and change and voted him into office.
I know three people (ages 50 - 60) who were retired before the election but have had to go back to work because they have lost more than half of their retirement funds.
It sickens and disgusts me to hear the media and uninformed voters talk about how Obama hasn’t turned out to be what they expected. They failed this nation as surely as Obama will.
I believe that 0 and his crew are actively working to destroy the country in order to remake it according to his communist dogma.
i think it bottoms at 4000, assuming ZerO doesn’t do anything stupid.
oh wait, i see your point.
i do not think he got the highest vote total in history. We need to check that. I would guess a few extra million were generated by ACORN.
The REAL opinion polls on him are run every day - it is called the stock market.
That's not true. The vast majority of Obama voters don't know where to buy one.
If it were true...the media would have turned on him already.
It's lost 3000 (20%)in 64 days...Inauguration Day.
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