Posted on 03/05/2009 1:46:26 PM PST by Justaham
RIO DE JANEIRO A Roman Catholic archbishop says the abortion of twins carried by a 9-year-old girl who allegedly was raped by her stepfather means excommunication for the girl's mother and her doctors.
Despite the nature of the case, the church had to hold its line against abortion, Archbishop Jose Cardoso Sobrinho said in an interview aired Thursday by Globo television.
"The law of God is higher than any human laws," he said. "When a human law that is, a law enacted by human legislators is against the law of God, that law has no value. The adults who approved, who carried out this abortion have incurred excommunication."
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Perhaps sometimes taking an innocent human life is OK...it’s done all the time in war.
I can’t make that call. I’m assuming the physician in charge found medical evidence to suggest that the mother was already in physical distress and the twins would have followed shortly thereafter. Had the twins been allowed to develop any further, it may have been a call where they would have been lost and the mother rendered sterile with a litany of reconstructive surgery.
When really small children are violated, they usually require major surgery to be able to urinate and reproduction is out of the question.
I’m not going to slap the Church or the doctor around on this one. THIS WAS A TOUGH CALL no matter how you cut it.
Such are the faultlines where religion rubs against reality.
Strange but true: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Medina Lina Medina (born September 27, 1933, in Paurange, Peru) is the youngest confirmed mother in medical history, giving birth at the age of 5 years, 7 months and 21 days.
“...Born in Peru, Lina was brought to a hospital by her parents at the age of 5 years because of increasing abdominal size. She was originally thought to have had a tumor, but her doctors determined she was in her seventh month of pregnancy. Dr. Gerardo Lozada took her to Lima, Peru, prior to the surgery to have other specialists confirm that Lina was in fact pregnant. A month and a half later, on May 14, 1939, she gave birth to a boy by a caesarean section necessitated by her small pelvis..”
Who's letting the child rot? Also, how does forcing the kid to have an abortion make the situation in the least bit better? It doesn't.
Well, good for her. That would at least confirm that Latin American children develop consistently with the theory I am familiar with. As I said previously, I was not involved with this case, so I can’t say what the factors involved were. I do know that in 99 out of 100 cases, when the child is not sufficiently developed in size, the healthy birth of a single child, much less twins would render the mother disfigured at the least, sterile or dead at the other end of the spectrum.
Penetration normally requires reconstructive surgery in most young children.
You've tried this argument once before and made yourself look foolish. I would advise against it.
Yes. Everyone shares the same reality, not so with religions.
Not an arguement, just a fact.
Again, where is the war in the mothers womb?
You are using the fact to imply it is OK, so it is more than a fact to you, it is a justification.
Is it true or not?
Not one single one of us has enough facts to make a call on this. I assume the Bishop who made his decision did. If not, then he’s as guilty as the rest.
I’m giving it over to God, and the evil SOB who did this to the child under his protection over to God’s saving grace in whatever form that takes.
There is none, but innocent lives are taken in both situations, aren’t they?
Yes, it is a fact, but so what. What is the point to your statement and what are you trying to imply?
One hopes it was a hard call, but I wonder if the Church would have been so willing to make a public announcement about the excommunication if it didn’t have some idea that the physicians had not fully explored alternatives to the abortion.
I’m not convicting either party, except of a failure to communicate their decision-making criteria to each other.
What is the reason you are linking them together? There must be a point, right? So what is it? What message are you trying to convey?
Thank you, sounds a lot like the earlier phrase...’situational ethics’, doesn’t it?
Absolutely to both of your statements.
You're welcome, for what I do not know...You still haven't even come close to stating why these two situations are linked in even the remotest way.
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