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Windows 7 version lineup revealed: Prepare for disappointment
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Posted on 02/19/2009 1:30:25 PM PST by Chet 99

Remember when Vista was announced, and Microsoft decided to release six different versions of the operating system, much to the confusion, disappointment, and ridicule of potential buyers? Well guess what? Microsoft is back with the Windows 7 strategy. What has it learned in the last three years? Pretty much nothing.

While Microsoft is touting the "two primary editions" of Windows 7 -- a Home Premium edition and a Professional (intended for business) edition -- the fact is it's sticking with the same six different versions (or SKUs, stock-keeping units) that it had for Vista.

The real difference is that Windows 7 Home Basic -- the much-reviled stripped-down version of Vista that was designed for bare-bones PCs -- is now being shunted to emerging markets only, though it will still exist. But to confuse matters, a Windows 7 Starter edition, which will run only three applications simultaneously, will also be available.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: lowqualitycrap; microsoft; microsucks; windows; windows7
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To: Irish Eyes
big mistake ?

Depends. If you like it, and your hardware can afford the performance hit, no biggie.If you do nothing besides internet browsing, you may never notice Norton's influence.

I've made a good deal of money cleaning up people's machines, and I've seen 2 ghz processor machines running a gig of ram under XP totally sucking wind, trying to run Norton. Literally, a button click would take 30 or more seconds before anything happened. AFter removing Norton, the thing would fly. AFter removing norton and doing a disk cleanup/defrag, this machine was like new. I personally view Norton and Mcafee as two viruses that are intentionally purchased.

81 posted on 02/19/2009 6:27:53 PM PST by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant penguin on my Head")
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To: Big Giant Head

What program do you like better than Norton or Mcafee? What do you think of AVG 8 (free). I did like avg 7.5 (free) but did not like it after the update.


82 posted on 02/19/2009 7:05:58 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: RobRoy

Yeah, iTunes is a jerk like that. I love using sites like Limewire, I just don’t admit to it much so I don’t get called ‘thief’ etc.

I used to use an itunes converter program called jhymn that would convert everything to mp3, but it doesn’t work anymore.


83 posted on 02/19/2009 7:10:12 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Irish Eyes

Currently I’m using nothing at all. I used AVG for a while, switched to Avast, have read about others. I’m behind a firewall and every time I go get my computer scanned, it says I’m invisible.

The only time I’ve ever gotten anything was when I was downloading a “free” game.


84 posted on 02/19/2009 7:43:19 PM PST by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant penguin on my Head")
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To: TPluth
If I upgrade, it’ll be to Linux, as soon as I can find a VPN client that works there.

openSwan IPsec

85 posted on 02/19/2009 9:17:12 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: richace
Linux works with wireless quite well. I have a laptop (T30) with and old Linksys WPC54G PC card, that once upon a time I had to use NDISWrapper, which wrapped linux code around a windows driver. But since openSuse 11.0 I hadn't needed the kludge, as native support got better. A new laptop (T61) with built-in Intel AG wireless, works fine. Both are now running openSuSE 11.1 and I am loving 11.1.

Some chipsets have been more problematic than others.. Broadcom (makers of the chipset in my old Linksys card) in particular it seems. And I'm not particularly impressed with USB dongles for some things. I have a BlueTooth USB adapter, that's been a problem, not just in Linux, but in native (not VM) Vista. Again, it's a Broadcom chipset. Unfortunately, they don't list chipset mfg's on the box. It was a spur of the moment purchase. Oh well. I'm just going to have to get the BT daughtercard for the laptop and install that. You might also want to stay with a more mainstream distros from one of the bigger houses; openSuSE, Redhat, Unbutu.

86 posted on 02/19/2009 9:35:12 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: Big Giant Head

Shutting down the UAC doesn’t sound wise. It’s their lame attempt at security, for people that run from the Administrator/Owner account.


87 posted on 02/19/2009 9:45:24 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: rwfromkansas

>>...I don’t get called ‘thief’ etc.<<

Heh, heh. My skin is so thick when it comes to name calling that I may have a mild form of insanity.

I go into this weird “consider the source” mode. It’s like that old Groucho Marx line, “I’d never join a club that would allow someone like me to become a member” only in a reverse.

That is, I never respect the opinion of a person that would stoop to calling me names based solely on what he heard on the internet. I don’t just say it. I live it.

I am robroy on Harmony-central.com. You aughta hear all the ad-hominem attacks I get there. And there is no language censorship, if you get my drift...


88 posted on 02/19/2009 10:32:18 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in the 1930's.)
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To: AFreeBird

It’s a lame attempt for sure. The UAC merely trains people to okay everything, as normally they try to run stuff they know is safe. It becomes muscle memory. How safe is that? In the long run, it’s not much safer at all.

I view the machinery as if I own it (I do), and the software (despite the license, I own what I bought). I don’t feel the need to bow before the almighty nanny-state software setup that is the default Vista. I make the security decisions in my house and I don’t Vista nagging me.

I’m far more pleased with my OS when it doesn’t piss me off. Which is why my Linux distro of choice is PCLinuxOS 2007, waiting for 2009.


89 posted on 02/20/2009 3:09:46 AM PST by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant penguin on my Head")
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To: Blue Highway

I literally haven’t seen a BSOD in years. I’ve never seen one on Vista FWIW.


90 posted on 02/20/2009 11:02:09 AM PST by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: jimt

“Windows 95 was better. MUCH better, and not a gargantuan resource hog.”

Try running a 6 gig MKV file from a thumb drive with Win 95.


91 posted on 02/20/2009 11:25:41 AM PST by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: CheezyChesster

“Talk with any Vista owner and you’ll hear nothing but nightmares.”

Uh, I have vista on my notebood at home. I had one old program that wouldn’t work and a couple that warned me that they wouldn’t work but worked anyway.

That was about 18 months ago, thousands of hours later, no nightmares.

I helped my wife set up a Mac laptop she got for Christmas. There were some similar set up issues but overall, a very similar experience as with Vista.


92 posted on 02/20/2009 11:40:21 AM PST by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: dangerdoc

“That was about 18 months ago, thousands of hours later, no nightmares.”

Apparently I should have been more discriptive in my post.

“Talk with any (average non-geek) Vista owner and you’ll hear nothing but nightmares.”

*FIXED*


93 posted on 02/20/2009 3:11:30 PM PST by CheezyChesster
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To: dangerdoc
I haven't seen one on my Vista laptop with SP1 and I have had that since March of 2008. Before then I saw it once or twice. Again, a dear old friend.

I will say I haven't seen the BSOD on Windows 7 yet, but on 2 computers running Windows 7, my Internet Explorer 8 became crippled where it won't connect online. Firefox works though. I wish I could find a fix for Internet Explorer 8 but it's a beta version and won't allow downloading the RC1 version you can get for XP or Vista. Anyone know a way to fix this, or has anyone had this occur to them?

94 posted on 02/20/2009 3:17:29 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Perdogg

That problem is self explanatory.

My version of windows system startup disks comes with Norton. And it is the very first program I delete after windows reload. Norton won’t tell you that you have a virus on many occassions because it doesn’t recognise all viruses. What’s the sense of having an anti-virus if it doesn’t recognise a threat ?
I use Avast anti-virus, it’s the best I have found over the past 15 years exp. and I won’t trade it for nothing. Zone Alarm firewall, Adaware 2008 & spybot SD are other prog’s I simply will not do with out.

for me “XP” is where it’s at. And I’m not willing to reinvest another 2-3 years learning a different platform when there’s absolutely nothing wrong with the XP platform.


95 posted on 02/20/2009 3:27:58 PM PST by CheezyChesster
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To: CheezyChesster

The only place I see people complaining about Vista is on the internet.

My 84 year old FIL had his computer die last fall, he made the transition with no problems. He is a little older than average but definately not a computer geek.

I’m home now so I am posting from Vista as we speak. I walked in, turned on the computer and amazingly, it started and I was able to open my programs. No registry hacking, no super geek interventions, it just works.

This whole Vista scare is getting a little over the top.


96 posted on 02/20/2009 4:23:04 PM PST by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: dangerdoc
This whole Vista scare is getting a little over the top.

I totally agree. I've been using Vista Home Premium 64-bit for quite a while now, and I love it. It's more stable than XP (and I like XP) and faster. It looks nice, it's easy to get around in. My mom has had some terrible issues with her Mac OSX system, and that thing is far more powerful than my Vista computer. One thing I learned from poking around OSX was that it seemed that Apple seemed to be just a little too cool, like they had out-"slick"'d themselves or something. There were simple things I wanted to do (no, Mac people I don't remember the particulars), and I had absolutely no idea how/where to go. Not a huge deal since that's why God invented Google, but it was kind of annoying.

Anyway, sometimes you get a lemon, sometimes you don't. I like Vista and have no complaints.

97 posted on 02/20/2009 4:46:37 PM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Chet 99; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

98 posted on 02/20/2009 4:55:46 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: voveo
Macs are for getting girls.
99 posted on 02/20/2009 5:06:25 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Chet 99

I’ve been impressed with the speed of the Windows 7 beta. But I’ve heard that the beta doesn’t have any of the DRM activated, which could slow it to Vista speed when it’s done.


100 posted on 02/20/2009 5:43:26 PM PST by antiRepublicrat ("I am a firm believer that there are not two sides to every issue..." -- Arianna Huffington)
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