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To: Squantos
I agree with what ya say yet a Con Con still has to be approved by two thirds of congress and then ratified by at least 38 (?) states does it not ?!??!?

Here is the complete Article V. The part after the semi colon is not applicable to this discussion.

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

Now cut it down to the part that counts here.

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress;

So you see, there are two "modes of ratification." And who gets to decide which mode applies? CONGRESS. Does it say "by a supermajority?" No. Therefore, the selection of modes of ratification is by a simple 50% +1 vote of Congress.

So a simple majority of Congress could throw the ratification process to completely undefined "state conventions."

These "conventions in 3/4s thereof" are the wildcard. These could, in turbulent and polarized times, become "Acorn conventions" held in downtown civic centers. These civic centers could be surrounded by radical libtards, and conservatives might not exactly be welcomed there.

Nobody really knows how this would happen. The only time it was done before was when Prohibition was repealed in a big hurry. There is all kind of room for mischief here. A Hugo-Chavez-type figure would have no trouble seeing to it that these "conventions" in the states were rubber stamp assemblies put together by Acorn.

172 posted on 02/18/2009 7:43:08 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Well I just ordered a new mod 99 416 Barrett .

Fallback plan B.

Thanks for that lesson.....I learn something new on FR almost every day !


175 posted on 02/18/2009 7:50:34 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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