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Keyes: President 'has something to hide' Says Dem 'asked to be chosen, therefore must answer'
worldNetDaily.com ^ | February 16, 2009 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 02/16/2009 8:20:04 PM PST by Jet Jaguar

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To: randomhero97
I think this is the best explanation I've seen.

Defining Natural-Born Citizen

41 posted on 02/16/2009 9:17:50 PM PST by smokingfrog (Is it just my imagination, or is the water in this pot getting a little too hot?)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I don’t think that Obama was born overseas—it just seems too illogical to assume his parents would have thought to concoct that kind of story back then. And there is the supposedly contemporaneous announcement from the Honolulu paper of his birth.

But I do think there is something strange that the Obama camp isn’t talking about. I find it odd that he won’t just reveal an original copy of his birth certificate. I used to think it was because it revealed that his parents were never married, but then their divorce papers surfaced and Obama is quite open about the fact that his mother was pregnant at the time of her marriage and everyone knows Obama Sr. was already married in Africa.

Now I’m thinking perhaps the birth certificate notes a place for the child’s religion, and it reads Muslim. Not that it makes him a Muslim now, but it’s pretty clear that his stepfather adopted him and considered him a Muslim and made him an Indonesian citizen. I think all that together was just too much to foist on the American public before the election.


42 posted on 02/16/2009 9:18:40 PM PST by Burkean
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To: jdsteel

The word didn’t come from Nigeria, They both came from the same root word....Check out the French, Noir and Spanish & Portugese, which both use “negro” word for black. All come from the word niger which is Latin for black. Nigeria also come from that Root word as do many other words.


43 posted on 02/16/2009 9:25:30 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: jdsteel

Yup. You get it!


44 posted on 02/16/2009 9:29:21 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Good article. So, he is blocking all access to the Occidental College records, too, and threatening to crush anyone who persists.

It’s not just the birth certificate, it’s virtually ALL of his records, from one end of his life to the other.

Did he apply to Occidental as a Kenyan or an Indonesian?


45 posted on 02/16/2009 9:29:57 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: IrishPennant

Either we are a Constitutional Republic or we are a nation of mob rule. The people mocking this issue should realize this, regardless of political persuasion. Obama’s stepdad changed Barry’s name, listed his religion as muslim on his school records (per AP), and adopted him. It’s reasonable to conclude he transferred Indonesian citizenship, which by itself would mean Barry was not a “natural born citizen” at time of election.


46 posted on 02/16/2009 9:38:30 PM PST by ccruse456
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To: Burkean

First off the announcement in the newspapers of Jr’s birth listed the address of 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy while the Dunhams address was 2277 Kamehameha Ave., and Obama Sr lived in a “small, single story home at 625 11th Ave.” The home at the address listed in the birth announcement was owned by Orland and Thelma Lefforge.
Second, there is no religion listed on Hawaiian birth certificates of that time.


47 posted on 02/16/2009 9:46:20 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: Chief Engineer

There are so many lies, blank pages, misinformation, oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive. Right Barry Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro? Who are you? Who props you up? Who is your puppet master? I think it’s becoming crystal clear what you mission is. You have a long way to go, Barry, before you can say mission accomplished.


48 posted on 02/16/2009 10:04:20 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: mojitojoe

Bookmark.

It wasn’t a president who got elected, it was a sleeper cell.


49 posted on 02/16/2009 10:13:31 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: Burkean

I’m agnostic about where he was born, but boy do I have suspicions! Even, as you say, even if it’s not his birthplace, there’s something special being hidden. Your idea, though, about the BC having Muslim - while it might be right, they do have that Indonesian school paperwork already which says Muslim and Indonesian citizenship. Unless maybe by it’s being on a BC it might carry more weight. I don’t think my BC says what our religion was - although back then, you usually gave birth in a religious hospital, which kind of gives it away!


50 posted on 02/16/2009 11:02:33 PM PST by canaan
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To: Burkean
Now I’m thinking perhaps the birth certificate notes a place for the child’s religion, and it reads Muslim.

Hawaiian Birth Certificates of the period had no such information, or a place for it, on them.

This is 1963 version, while Obama's should be from '61.


51 posted on 02/16/2009 11:18:03 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: canaan
you usually gave birth in a religious hospital, which kind of gives it away!

My brother and I, and his two kids, were born in a Catholic hospital. None of us are Catholic, although my father was at one time. (He went to Catholic school, but got kicked out, the last straw was eating raw onions, as one would eat an apple, in class :) )

52 posted on 02/16/2009 11:21:47 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

Raw Onions! Sounds like he wanted to get kicked out lol


53 posted on 02/17/2009 1:04:10 AM PST by canaan
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To: Jet Jaguar

From the Petition for Writ of Mandate ...

“On October 25, 2008, SOS was contacted, via e-mail, by Orly Taitz, Esq., discussing the issues mentioned above. SOS has acknowledged receipt of said e-mail and sent a response. As of that time, SOS was on notice and had a duty to act. Ms. Taitz had a subsequent conversation with the election analyst of SOS Office, Ms. Philly Crosby. Ms. Taitz requested an administrative hearing on the matter in question. Ms. Crosby stated that she would discuss the matter with Ms. Bowen and SOS’ General Counsel, Ms. Pam Giarizzo, and that Ms. Giarizzo would telephone Ms. Taitz to discuss the issue. Ms. Taitz followed this conversation with a second e-mail, confirming all the details of the conversation. As yet, SOS has taken no steps to request the necessary documents from Senator Obama. It appears that Ms. Bowen is intending to certify Senator Obama, and to certify his Electors, and not protect the people of the State of California by enforcing its laws. As a result of SOS declining to act pursuant to the described legal obligations, the only remedy is to request relief from the Superior Court of California.”

I do not see how the SoS can defend this. She’s required to verify eligibility. She was asked to verify Obama’s eligibility before she certified him, but she refused.

I know people want to make this out as an attack on Obama. But the SoS of California did not do her job when a written request was made. Keyes has a right to seek redress.


54 posted on 02/17/2009 1:44:16 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (Change is coming!)
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To: randomhero97

Feast away!

http://investigatingobama.blogspot.com/2008/12/articles-on-constitutions-natural-born.html


55 posted on 02/17/2009 3:40:16 AM PST by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com)
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To: Burkean

Forget the birth announcement, there is no hospital records of him being born in Hawaii.

Is is so disconcerting that everything about this man is sealed. Did he not even have friends? Has anyone come forward to say that they knew him way back when? He just creeps me out. He reminds me of Damien from the Omen.


56 posted on 02/17/2009 4:02:22 AM PST by panthermom
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To: Jet Jaguar

Sooner or later, Obama will have to cough up his original birth certificate. I believe that this will cause him to be removed from ofiice for not being eligible as a natural born American citizen.


57 posted on 02/17/2009 5:03:45 AM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: Burkean

Burkean:”But I do think there is something strange that the Obama camp isn’t talking about. I find it odd that he won’t just reveal an original copy of his birth certificate. I used to think it was because it revealed that his parents were never married, but then their divorce papers surfaced and Obama is quite open about the fact that his mother was pregnant at the time of her marriage and everyone knows Obama Sr. was already married in Africa.”

I have also thought alot about what might be on the original BC that is so sensitive. There really is very little that most anyone would be concerned about. The names, age, race, and residence of the parents are on this document. The place, time, and day of birth is given as well. The signatures of both parents and attending physician are all that is left.

None of this information really matter to most anyone. So the only valid reason to supress this info would seem to be if any of this data is missing. In other words, if there may be reason to believe the information is false or invalid.

I suspect the information on the original vault copy may have inconsistencies that contrast to things that Obama has already legally proclaimed.


58 posted on 02/17/2009 5:31:27 AM PST by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: NordP

It is worth hundreds of billions to them. The porkulus may have been the end game. Democrats have become the party of crooks.


59 posted on 02/17/2009 7:04:47 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: FreeAtlanta

BECOME??????


60 posted on 02/17/2009 7:06:48 AM PST by NordP (CONSERVATIVE AGAIN IN 2010 ..... Now, is it 2012 yet ???)
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