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To: libertarian27

Hold on, smoking were you will expose others to risks doesn’t make you a rebel against the liberal establishment, it makes you a selfish douche. My grandad was a non-smoker and he died of lung-cancer. If you do it outside, hey, its a free society and its your funeral at the end of the day.
If you do it indoors and force other people to inhale it, I have no sympathy with your feelings of being oppressed by ‘anti-smoking nazis’. That is what most people object to, not what people are doing to themselves....


106 posted on 02/14/2009 12:59:41 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

You don’t understand the full breadth of the anti mentality....it just doesn’t stop at cigarettes.

Here’s a website of some hardcore antis.
They want everyone to comply with their wishes and are getting press and legislation through out America
http://burningissues.org/car-www/index.html


110 posted on 02/14/2009 1:11:26 PM PST by libertarian27 (Never has so many been owed so much by so few)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Second hand smoke is a myth.


116 posted on 02/14/2009 1:15:03 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan; libertarian27
Your father may have died of lung cancer but if he did he didn't get it from second hand smoke. Lots of non smokers die of lung cancer.

The second hand smoke theory has been disproved, even to the point of money being awarded tobacco companies(sorry I am not going to dig for hours in the archives just so I can show you a link, find it yourself, it is there, try about 1998)because of fake reports of second hand smoke.

Second hand smoke was brought out as a scare tactic because trying to scare smokers out of smoking wasn't working, so they decided to scare everyone else into believing smokers were harming the world.

Want a brief lesson in thinking? Ok, here you go: During the 1950s, and earlier, when it was discovered, and proved, that there was a correlation between smoking and cancer, everyone smoked. Now, according to the smoke nazis second hand smoke is actually deadlier than the first hand stuff. Now, stay with me here: If second hand smoke is so deadly, how did they ever prove cigs were causing cancer to start with? Everyone during the 30s,40s, 50s and a good part of the 60s, when they were running the tests and seeing the results, were exposed to second hand smoke.

I mean you couldn't go to a movie without coming out smelling like a cigarette. Everyone breathed it, in school, in church, at movies, in bars,on buses, street cars, trains. Therefore(stay with me)cancer rates should have been just as high in everyone, not just the smokers, their spouses, children and other non-smokers would have had cancer at the same rate therefore their tests would have proved nothing.

The fact that the tests did show that smoking did cause cancer in a smokers at a higher rate than non-smokers proves the second hand smoke crap is just that, crap.

129 posted on 02/14/2009 1:30:40 PM PST by calex59
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