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To: sinsofsolarempirefan; libertarian27
Your father may have died of lung cancer but if he did he didn't get it from second hand smoke. Lots of non smokers die of lung cancer.

The second hand smoke theory has been disproved, even to the point of money being awarded tobacco companies(sorry I am not going to dig for hours in the archives just so I can show you a link, find it yourself, it is there, try about 1998)because of fake reports of second hand smoke.

Second hand smoke was brought out as a scare tactic because trying to scare smokers out of smoking wasn't working, so they decided to scare everyone else into believing smokers were harming the world.

Want a brief lesson in thinking? Ok, here you go: During the 1950s, and earlier, when it was discovered, and proved, that there was a correlation between smoking and cancer, everyone smoked. Now, according to the smoke nazis second hand smoke is actually deadlier than the first hand stuff. Now, stay with me here: If second hand smoke is so deadly, how did they ever prove cigs were causing cancer to start with? Everyone during the 30s,40s, 50s and a good part of the 60s, when they were running the tests and seeing the results, were exposed to second hand smoke.

I mean you couldn't go to a movie without coming out smelling like a cigarette. Everyone breathed it, in school, in church, at movies, in bars,on buses, street cars, trains. Therefore(stay with me)cancer rates should have been just as high in everyone, not just the smokers, their spouses, children and other non-smokers would have had cancer at the same rate therefore their tests would have proved nothing.

The fact that the tests did show that smoking did cause cancer in a smokers at a higher rate than non-smokers proves the second hand smoke crap is just that, crap.

129 posted on 02/14/2009 1:30:40 PM PST by calex59
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To: calex59

Thats remarkably patronising for something that contains not even one citation of evidence, or perhaps, judging from the tone, you thought that kind of thing was beyond my comprehension.

And now a link to some actual research, backed up with citations to medical journals and research studies, which suggest that those exposed to second-hand smoke are between 24% and 27% more likely to develop lung-cancer than those who are not:

http://info.cancerresearchuk.org/healthyliving/smokingandtobacco/howdoweknow/#Passive

Even in the unlikely possibility of there being doubt about this, it isn’t your prerogative to take that chance and put other people’s lives at risk.
Honestly, I really couldn’t care less if people want to shoot themselves up with a big bag of heroin cut with ajax and die in the gutter, as long as you don’t impinge on me, I don’t have a problem with it. You smoking indoors where I am forced to inhale it means you are forcing the consequences of your choice on to me, and that is not acceptable....


151 posted on 02/14/2009 2:11:28 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: calex59
“The fact that the tests did show that smoking did cause cancer in a smokers at a higher rate than non-smokers proves the second hand smoke crap is just that, crap.”

You have a very good point, well done!

158 posted on 02/14/2009 3:36:51 PM PST by RepublicanChick
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