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To: Gondring
"How about educating our fellow voters and children, to break the indoctrination?"

With due respect, that is a non-starter. It simply won't happen. The liberals control the education institutions.

9 posted on 02/14/2009 12:48:56 AM PST by A Navy Vet (In perpetuum sacramentum : An Oath is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet

How many times have you volunteered in a public school?
How many newspapers have you started?

I’ve done both...why do you think it would be meaningless if millions of others did, too?


12 posted on 02/14/2009 12:54:51 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: A Navy Vet
A Navy Vet wrote:
"How about educating our fellow voters and children, to break the indoctrination?"

With due respect, that is a non-starter. It simply won't happen. The liberals control the education institutions.


With respect, that has to happen. Or any gains we can make will be wiped out.

And I'm skeptical about the courts as a vehicle to move an agenda forward. I know that the libs have used that approach. But that doesn't make it the right way to go. Activist judges legislating from the bench are bad, even when you might agree with their "laws."

The big problem with that approach is you get one shot. When the decision comes down, that's the law you get. And the only input is from the parties to the case at hand. It's not representative. There isn't any real public debate. The results are bad much more often than they are good.

Tax revolt is probably the next logical step. Claim exemption from withholding. Or, if you're worried about the legal ramifications of tax evasion, just avoid taxable activity.

I've suggested "Tax Free Fridays" as a possible response to the Porkulus spending monstrosity that just passed. Take unpaid leave every Friday until it's repealed. That denies the Feds 20% (or more) of their revenue stream from withholding for income taxes and payroll taxes.

Use the time to volunteer at schools as Gondring suggested, or tend a garden (to reduce your expenses to keep things in line with the reduced income). Or even use the time to clean your guns and practice at the range.

20 posted on 02/14/2009 1:22:54 AM PST by cc2k (When less than half the voters pay taxes, it's called "taxation without representation.")
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To: A Navy Vet
"The liberals control the education institutions."

Home school

58 posted on 02/14/2009 3:47:59 AM PST by SERE_DOC (Today's politicians, living proof why we have and need a second amendment to the constitution.)
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To: A Navy Vet
The liberals control the education institutions.

And you think that they don't control the courts?

60 posted on 02/14/2009 3:52:09 AM PST by iowamark
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To: A Navy Vet
Great response and you are dead-on. We seem to have fallen into the usual modus operandi with this stimulus bill.

1. Complain

2. Leading to more complaining

3. Coming up with supposed solutions like the Courts or the one you responded to...educating people.

4. Complain some more

5. Do nothing but hope that we'll show 'em in 2010.

6. Type in bold Sarah 2012!

7. Complain some more

8. Recognize how smart the liberals are and give them credit.

9. Complain some more, restating the obvious that the stimulus is a bad bill.

10. Suggest corrections to an already passed bill

11. Complain some more

12. Post breaking news about a new piece of legislation to take more and more liberty away.

13. Restart steps 1-12 again...and again...and again.

This gets weary. Perhaps we should all read, re-read and re-read again the Declaration of Independence. There's the real solution.

63 posted on 02/14/2009 4:11:43 AM PST by mek1959
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To: A Navy Vet; Gondring

Not so.

Privately educate or home school your kids. There is no way I’d subject my children to the liberal indoctrination camps. There is no way to undo 40+ hours of socialist/PC indoctrination with a few hours a night and weekends.


101 posted on 02/14/2009 7:32:22 AM PST by NucSubs ( Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: A Navy Vet

marker


105 posted on 02/14/2009 8:12:02 AM PST by JDoutrider
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