Posted on 02/14/2009 12:20:34 AM PST by A Navy Vet
Not at all, I have my beliefs, values, morals and points of view just like everyone else and what you have most likely seen is that I will not back off them just because someone else differs.
Would you have a specific example?
I think you will find that I am very consistent in my arguments and I don't like to waste anyone's time including my own with extraneous information or arguments.
Interesting thread.
Preparation just in case is an idea worth considering.
...one problem with it, that is.
Some jerks will lose their lazy merchant/import rackets and go around saying that it’s the end of the world, then try unsuccessfully to recruit former real soldiers to act like fools with them.
and how would you know the extent of someones service, just as you don't know the extent of mine... which by the way was quite extensive... ;-)
I understand your point about some of the REMFs, I have known quite a few that I would not trust behind me... but some will surprise you with their knowledge and patriotism.... I've known cooks and wrench turners that could out perform a lot of their front line peers.
One the most important things I learned in SO is never under estimate anyone! Meaning you shouldn't be throwing the traitor tag around so loosely... the British called a lot of our founders traitors... but were they?
“because some of the neo-Nazis of the ‘90s”
That sounds a bit “conspiratorial”, to me. There is a lot of venting and anger releasing going on around here over the past 2 weeks.
That is normal. But there is also some very well considred thought regarding the future of our Republic and the current Socialist who are running it now. I will not say that we are even close to armed insurrection. I will state though that we are definately on a path of considering with all sincerity what our Republic should be and what our Founding Fathers intened, a renewal of relearning our early American history and founding.
I have seen many who are in deep thought on these issues at the present. These are not the type of men and women that are “neo Nazis” from the 90s. Most of the posters have been on this site for awhile and some not. But, as was said, “these are the time that try men’s souls”.
Personally, I am on a path of reconsidering how far we can stray from our Constitutional scripture before we have gone to far. Regardless, much of what happens now is up to the Socialists in charge of our government and the media who control the information to the masses. The “die is not cast”. But the lead is being poured. The mold is what we need to look at closely at this point. Personally I believe we are in the very very early stages of acute discontent and contingencies need to be planned to meet differing scenarios.
Our Revolution in this country was an amazing blessing to America and the world. We were warned that it wouldn’t be easy to keep this Republic. We were warned that from time to time watering of the Tree of Liberty would be needed. Those meanings and thoughts seem radical to some now, but I would claim that it is only because of our own laziness and spoiledness that we can’t or don’t want to see the reality of our condition.
These are not normal times, these are times for considering and preparing just in case. If these are normal times than I have become a mere slave to my future.
It’s just that sometimes I think that you are arguing with yourself.
Again and this would be the second, if not the third, time for this request... would you be so kind as to point out a specific thread, post or comment?...
I am very solid in my beliefs/values both political and personal, so I am not one to "bounce around" the issues arguing with myself.
Anytime I belabor a point or argument it is usually in response to or countering another freepers point of view and/or in reference to a challenge of my arguments... and is that not the mission of this forum, to exchange ideas and to discuss varying points of view?
As you know a lot of threads come across FR daily and like you I jump on the ones that interest me, although I have been lurking since 2000, I did not actively take part until late last year. But I think you and other "longer term" freepers will get to know me in the coming years as a solid conservative that will hold to my values and beliefs no matter what the outcome, The last election would be a prime example...
... And I do not care how "Veteran" another freeper is... If I believe they are wrong or if they attempt to belittle me or my arguments I WILL CALL THEM ON IT. This is after all FREE Republic! BUT if I am incorrect or they can negate my argument, I will back down and if necessary apologize, which I have done a couple of times already... much to my dismay... ;-)
I hope this has cleared up any misconceptions.
Finally after all your posts, you said something that you and I will agree on...
...But remember that when push comes to shove, there is NO DISHONOR in battling tyranny... "And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor." - DOI
“I doubt it will ever happen since it needs 3/4ths of the States to approve an Amendment.”
On this day and age, all you would have to do is litmus test it and select candidates who are for it. In debates, bring up all the mess and say that is why we need candidates who believe in it.
“I am hanging signs up in my house, ‘IF YOU VOTED FOR OBAMA OR ANY OTHER SOCIALIST LIBERAL, YOU ARE NOT WELCOME IN THIS HOME. I intend to stick to it, even with relatives.”
I’m designing the sign now — maybe in time for your birthday. (Of what relatives do you speak?)
There are some on the Norwegian side - not our side.
Oh... gotcha.
This is where I get peeved. "We have families..."
"We" sound like the Russians in the Soviet Union who had families, and the state used them as hostages. Step too far out of line and your family will suffer. Very effective.
But civil disobedience is a lot easier than lawsuits, Navy Vet. It can be done by an amateur without years of legal education. It can be done in leisure hours, or when you're beered up, or when the impulse kicks in. It takes less time, less energy, less money, less organization. It's guerrilla warfare, war on the cheap.
Your everyday working stiff might not want to barge into Congressional chambers, but there are plenty of working stiffs with inner rowdies, needing only a little more stimulus and maybe a ride and some bail insurance. And the rest of the working stiffs, they can still use the mail and the spray can and dozens of other annoying items.
Havoc is easy. Organization is hard. Court is effin' hard.
Besides, people who play by the rules, tend to lose against people who don't. The Democrats are trying to destroy the Constitution and the culture; I for one don't want to engage in kabuki-esque stageplay with them.
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