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With Unemployment Rising, Is It Time to Stop Hiring Foreign Workers?
Associated Press ^ | 2009-02-06 | Frank Bass et al

Posted on 02/11/2009 8:46:40 AM PST by QenBirQeni

Senate approves restriction on foreign hires

The Senate voted Friday to restrict the hiring of foreign workers by banks that are receiving government bailout funds while undergoing vast layoffs.

The legislation by Sens. Bernie Sanders, a Vermont independent, and Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, would require the banks to seek American workers before turning to foreign nationals when they're hiring. It aims to prevent replacement of Americans by foreigners working under the H-1B visa program, which allows employers to bring in workers for high-skilled and advanced-degree jobs.

The measure has a two-year life and if signed into law would apply to the more than 300 banks that are receiving money from the taxpayer-funded Troubled Asset Relief Program.

The Senate added the restriction as part of the massive economic stimulus package lawmakers are crafting as part of President Barack Obama's plan to reinvigorate the economy.

If it becomes law, banks seeking visas to bring in foreign workers would be barred from displacing or replacing American employees for three months before and three months after petitioning the government for the visas.

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Partial data from the U.S. Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services suggests that the banks ultimately got visas for only about one-quarter of the number of workers they initially sought permission to employ. For example, the banks and their subsidiaries filed more than 5,000 visa applications with Labor Department officials during the 2006 budget year. After that step, they ended up with about 1,200 new workers approved by the Citizenship and Immigration agency.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: foreign; hiring; unemployment; workers
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To: libh8er

There’s nothing wrong with debate. As long as none of us resort to meaningless, thoughtless tirades.


41 posted on 02/11/2009 9:32:50 AM PST by QenBirQeni
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To: libh8er
why stop at goods ?

We haven't. Thanks to "free trade" slavery is actually making a comeback in the United States. Several years ago the labor department admitted there were nearly 200,000 slaves working in the US, but that number was probably low-balled.
42 posted on 02/11/2009 9:33:16 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: UCFRoadWarrior; All

THEY WHERE NOT!!!


43 posted on 02/11/2009 9:34:33 AM PST by KevinDavis (No one should question our "Dear Leader"!)
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To: QenBirQeni
I’m thinking of working for McDonalds. Try outsourcing that job!

Yet you don't get what you're saying in your previous post:

Actually, I think let the cheapest labor be hired would be more appropriate.

What happens when McDonald's hires people from India or etc. to do your job at the drive-thru because the immigrants will do your job for less money?

No, sir. Again, I say that if I am supposed to accept losing my job to foreigners and then lose any other job to immigrants then there will be hell to pay.

44 posted on 02/11/2009 9:36:18 AM PST by MahatmaGandu (Remember, remember, the twenty-sixth of November.)
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To: FarRightFanatic
There is nothing that drives me more crazy than when I have to call customer service and I get someone who can barely speak English. Drives me up the wall

Then all you have to do is join others in boycotting the company that uses outsourced labor. If enough of you do that, management will get the message. All I meant in #2 was that it's not the govt's job to tell businesses who they can hire and who they cannot (so long as they are legal of course).

45 posted on 02/11/2009 9:36:24 AM PST by libh8er
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
I love the way Wikipedia looks at H1-B visas. It comes with a neutrality warning, too.

The H-1B is a non-immigrant visa in the United States under the Immigration & Nationality Act, section 101(a)(15)(H). It allows U.S. employers to temporarily employ foreign workers in specialty occupations. The regulations define a “specialty occupation” as requiring theoretical and practical application of a body of highly specialized knowledge in a field of human endeavor including, but not limited to, architecture, engineering, mathematics, physical sciences, social sciences, medicine and health, education, law, accounting, business specialties, theology, and the arts. However, in reality, the H-1B visa is used by corporations in any case where American citizens can be replaced with lower cost foreign workers. For example, fashion models, with no formal job training of any kind, are commonly given H-1B visas to replace American citizens at lower cost to corporations.

Did Congress intentionally allow for loopholes? Hmmm!

46 posted on 02/11/2009 9:36:40 AM PST by QenBirQeni
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To: QenBirQeni

Any port in a storm, I guess. I’ve been through it, I know just what you’ll do to keep body and soul and family together. Hope you will be as richly blessed as I have been. I’m still crawling out of the hole loss of income created, but I’m starting to see daylight and just hate to see another load of fresh manure piled on top of me.

It takes years to recover from the damage just a few crooks and educated morons can cause. What do you get when you educate a moron? A moron with a piece of paper.


47 posted on 02/11/2009 9:37:00 AM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Thank you, my FRiend.


48 posted on 02/11/2009 9:37:18 AM PST by MahatmaGandu (Remember, remember, the twenty-sixth of November.)
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To: KevinDavis
or be forced to buy union made crap..

You'd rather buy communist made crap. Never mind the "domestic" nonunion manufacturing that remains. You're screwing them just as surely, because communist made crap is cheaper.

49 posted on 02/11/2009 9:38:28 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: MahatmaGandu

I’m sure they said the exact thing about your ancestors, no offense intended. I seem to recall my buddy’s grandfather complain about how his dad was hounded in the late 1800s and early 1900s when they immigrated here.

Taking issue with foreigners rather than the companies who hire them is the wrong approach.


50 posted on 02/11/2009 9:39:31 AM PST by QenBirQeni
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

Good points....

If we were not out-sourcing jobs...we would not have needed a stimulus bill. And the individual states would not be having such massive deficits. How will California get out of their fiscal mess by taxing illegals and H1-B’s ?


51 posted on 02/11/2009 9:40:01 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (The Threat To Our Soverignty Is Rampant Economic Anti-Americanism)
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To: QenBirQeni; All

I think this is one article in which the headline answers the question posed.


52 posted on 02/11/2009 9:43:26 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
If we were not out-sourcing jobs...we would not have needed a stimulus bill

How do you mean?

53 posted on 02/11/2009 9:43:29 AM PST by QenBirQeni
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To: KevinDavis
THEY WHERE NOT!!!

The federal government was originally supported by tariffs, KevinDavis. Do you support tariffs, or do you think they're "protectionist?"

Are you saying that the Founders were un-American? Your transnational corporatist ideology is painting you into some rather doltish corners.

54 posted on 02/11/2009 9:45:24 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: QenBirQeni

The difference between today and the late 19th-early 20thC immigrant hires is that todays immigrant hires are strictly to non-market lower the wages...where our ancestors immigrated because their was a real demand for their labor....many of our ancestors immigrated because new lands needed to be settled and farmed, and new factories needed labor.

There is no market demand for immigrant labor today....if there truly was, their wages would be the same, if not higher, than what an American is being paid....the laws of “supply and demand” would dictate that


55 posted on 02/11/2009 9:46:01 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (The Threat To Our Soverignty Is Rampant Economic Anti-Americanism)
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To: AuntB
You destroy competition with imported cheap labor. Evidently you don’t care.

I have been happily unemployed for over two months and burning through savings like a solid fuel rocket burns through propellant -- without taking one single penny from the taxpayer. AND, I am competing for jobs for which hordes of other H1-B's are competing as well. In the end I want to get hired (like I always have) only because I was 'better' and provided a better value to my employer despite my higher asking salary than some third worlder.

56 posted on 02/11/2009 9:47:01 AM PST by libh8er
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To: libh8er
I meant "hordes of H1-B's", not "hordes of the other H1-B's"
57 posted on 02/11/2009 9:49:48 AM PST by libh8er
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To: QenBirQeni
I do not want people coming here to take American jobs when Americans cannot find jobs. Period.

Again, if you want to see a revolution in this country just keep this crap up and when enough Americans are out of work and angry enough this nation will go off like a bomb. Mark my words and remember them when you find yourself having to choose which side you're on.

58 posted on 02/11/2009 9:49:59 AM PST by MahatmaGandu (Remember, remember, the twenty-sixth of November.)
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To: libh8er
No. Hiring only domestic is the same as protectionism. Let the best be hired.

In theory, the "best" would be hired. In practice, the foreigner who live in a 2 bedroom apartment with 25 other foreigners, is willing to work for less and will be hired, thus depriving an American of a job.

59 posted on 02/11/2009 9:51:39 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Kenyan Usurper - "Let his days be few, and let another take his office." Psalm 109:8)
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To: libh8er
In the end I want to get hired (like I always have) only because I was 'better' and provided a better value to my employer despite my higher asking salary than some third worlder.

What's that old saying, that a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged? You're about to get mugged.

60 posted on 02/11/2009 9:52:51 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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