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Backwards Flags
self | 2/9/09 | CTOCS

Posted on 02/09/2009 9:26:58 AM PST by CTOCS

What's with all the backwards US flags I'm seeing on TV and the movies these days?

On 3 separate episodes of NCIS, one of the cast members was in military BDU's and wearing the US flag on the upper right shoulder. Problem was the flag was made backwards (blue union on upper right instead of left). In one Van Damm movie the flag was draped over a casket upside down AND backwards. This at a military funeral. In one war movie, the flag on the tank was backwards.

This is the epitome of ignorance, apathy, and disrepect as far as I'm comcerned.

I can't expect the poor, dumb, Chinese bastard who made it to know the difference, but I damned well expect the American who ordered it and spec'd it to.

Why aren't the viewers complaining? Why are we putting up with this crap?

Is anyone else noticing this?


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: flagetiquette; ignorantvirginian
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
It would take something away from the act of pledging allegiance to the flag if another flag were attached.

I see, you cannot actually look at a single flag of a line of flags and understand what is being said. When you pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America it is total ambiguous about which flag you are referencing...

How does “I pledge allegiance to Mills County,” grab ya ?

As a nonsensical strawman you're bringing up to justify your position.

Look, you don't like it; that's fine. But your attempt to countermand actual US Code and to paint those who abide by that code as "wrong" is simply and provably (as done in this thread several times) incorrect.

Fly the flag how you like; to dictate that others following the LAW are incorrect is rather presumptuous of you. Your opinion trumps national law, apparently!

161 posted on 02/09/2009 1:27:12 PM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

No enforcement, correct; and not “illegal”. It is, however, a US Code.


162 posted on 02/09/2009 1:29:31 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I was agreeing with you, as i’m sure you understand, just clarifying a little. It’s the engineer in me, I’m sure you understand that, too.


163 posted on 02/09/2009 1:31:35 PM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: CSM

You’re doing good, but it doesn’t pay to waste time arguing with some folks.


164 posted on 02/09/2009 1:32:56 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

You are just wrong. Perhaps remembering incorrectly. Or maybe it was simplified for Boy Scouts. I’ll ask my husband.


165 posted on 02/09/2009 1:33:09 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Would it take soemthing away from that feeling in the pit of your stomach if you were attending a parade and standing on the right side of the street to see the flag go by with the stars leading the bars, the way the flag appears on a soldiers uniform when you are on their right?


166 posted on 02/09/2009 1:34:18 PM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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This should put it to rest. Is the following photo - a photo of the first raising of the flag on Iwo Jima - heretical and disrespectful to the US Flag?

If you have a problem with the orientation of the flag in this photo, then go and tell a WWII veteran that they simply don't know how to respect the flag. We'll be here to say "told you so" when you pick your teeth up off the ground.

167 posted on 02/09/2009 1:34:44 PM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: XeniaSt
My service goes back to early VN.

Where were you in Vietnam?

168 posted on 02/09/2009 1:34:48 PM PST by TankerKC (Yes we can? I already could.)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
I'll take DOD rules and US Code and the convenience of identification to save lives of soldiers any day over offending some stubborn FReeper's sensitivity.


169 posted on 02/09/2009 1:36:13 PM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: TankerKC
XS>My service goes back to early VN.

Where were you in Vietnam?

No I was not in country.

I served in Albuquerque and Northern Italy.

I was compartmentalized.


170 posted on 02/09/2009 1:37:43 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

This whole “outrage” is asinine. I’m sure the entire U.S. Army, who now wear the U.S. flag on our right shoulders (stars facing front), is wrong, and a few easily offended idiots are right.


171 posted on 02/09/2009 1:44:35 PM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: XeniaSt
No I was not in country. I served in Albuquerque and Northern Italy.

I understand. You figure it adds some cred to throw around the "VN" word. Well, Vicenza starts with a V. Close enough, eh?

172 posted on 02/09/2009 1:46:59 PM PST by TankerKC (Yes we can? I already could.)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

I’m not dictating anything. If it looks wrong then it probably is. I’ve never seen a parade where anyone carries the US flag and another flag on the same staff. Never observed this in a school or in scouting or in front of a public building.


173 posted on 02/09/2009 1:49:03 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: TankerKC
XS>No I was not in country. I served in Albuquerque and Northern Italy.

I understand. You figure it adds some cred to throw around the "VN" word. Well, Vicenza starts with a V. Close enough, eh?

NO The VN was for GI Bill certification and Federal applications.

And yes in Caserma Ederle in Vicenza.

See my home page ~xeniast


174 posted on 02/09/2009 1:52:20 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: TankerKC
XS>No I was not in country. I served in Albuquerque and Northern Italy.

I understand. You figure it adds some cred to throw around the "VN" word. Well, Vicenza starts with a V. Close enough, eh?

NO The VN was for GI Bill certification and Federal applications.

And yes in Caserma Ederle in Vicenza.

See my home page ~xeniast


175 posted on 02/09/2009 1:52:21 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
This is from a US military installation on Hawaii.


176 posted on 02/09/2009 1:52:27 PM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: XeniaSt

The proper term is “Viet Nam Era”. Leaving ou the “era” is disingenuous, but thanks for serving anyway.


177 posted on 02/09/2009 1:53:28 PM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice; Eric in the Ozarks
Thank you. It's also common at many other places; here is a photo of the Washington State National Guard Armory, flying the flag at half-mast WITH the Washington State Flag below it:

Here's the Wisconsin State Capitol:

Flags at the US Postal Office in Benton, AR (I assume your state, since you're in the Ozarks):

Eric, the reason you don't see it in parades is because you typically have more than one person carrying a flag, and carrying to large flags on a single pole can be problematic, especially if it's gusty (it can be tough enough to control a 3'x5' flag for a 3 mile route in 20 MPH winds; double that sail area and it gets tough).

178 posted on 02/09/2009 2:12:33 PM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: XeniaSt

Great link - this is illustrated as my book is.

However, where do you see anything about which way to wear a patch on a uniform?


179 posted on 02/09/2009 2:31:38 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: thackney

Uh, no; that’s ONLY Section 5 of the Code.

There are references to military, but NO description of how to wear flag insignia.


180 posted on 02/09/2009 2:39:15 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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