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Question on requirement to present ID to police officer (vanity)
FR ^ | 1/24/2008 | Domandred

Posted on 01/24/2009 10:16:42 PM PST by Domandred

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To: Domandred

That Hiibel case was only upheld because Nevada has a “stop and identify” law. Only 23 states have similar laws. We are only a little less than half way to a “papers please” country. Warms the heart doesn’t it??


81 posted on 01/25/2009 1:37:43 AM PST by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: Cindy

Maybe I’m obnoxious, but at least I know my rights as a citizen of this Country.

You and your acceptance of illegal tyranny make me weep, thinking about what is ahead for our Republic.

Seriously, be offended by my comments. I don’t care.
But please be open-minded enough to accept that you might be wrong in putting complete trust in others to do what is right.

It is not about having nothing to hide. This is about freedom and our right to be assumed innocent.

If you do not want to be told the truth, or hear others opinions on why they think you are wrong, please don’t respond.

Again, this site is called FREE REPUBLIC. I am not trying to be “juvenile”. I just wish you would look up what that really means.


82 posted on 01/25/2009 1:40:55 AM PST by Aurorales
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To: Domandred

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2171229/posts?page=76#76


83 posted on 01/25/2009 1:43:15 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Aurorales

A good morning to you Aurorales.


84 posted on 01/25/2009 1:43:56 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Domandred

“Cindy” is basically telling you what you “must” do.

The way I interpret the posting of the link is, “do this”.
It is a lack of understand the difference of the words:
“should” and “could” and “have to”.


85 posted on 01/25/2009 1:45:58 AM PST by Aurorales
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To: Domandred

My thoughts:

Your town/city/state requires its citizens to produce an ID if they’re in an accident — even as passengers.

As it is YOUR town/city/state, it’s up to you to lobby against the rule if you don’t like it.


86 posted on 01/25/2009 1:51:28 AM PST by mc6809e
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To: Cindy

“It was/is the responsible thing to do.”
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You didn’t say that in you first responses.

“responsible” is very different from “mandatory”.

This is a red flag issue for many FReepers. You have to know that.

It might be responsible to you to carry ID. I understand that.
But it should not be (is not in most states I know of) mandatory to have it, if you are not doing anything that requires the ID.

Good morning to you too.


87 posted on 01/25/2009 1:52:06 AM PST by Aurorales
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To: Domandred
Here is the appropriate SCOTUS decision: Brown v. Texas

You were right. The cop was wrong.

88 posted on 01/25/2009 1:52:11 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Dallas59

The state police used to pull me over regularly when I drove to work on back roads at 2am. I finally had to make a stink to get them to leave me alone. I don’t know if they were just bored or if they just liked hassling people.


89 posted on 01/25/2009 1:58:37 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Domandred

In the UK the cops are now going door to door to see what you are eating!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/4214024/Dont-throw-away-leftovers-warn-food-police.html


90 posted on 01/25/2009 2:01:28 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Why did the cop assume he was lying about his name?


91 posted on 01/25/2009 2:02:25 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Domandred
I work in a nuclear power plant. I most likely will lose my job if I am ever arrested. The plant site is located remotely and reached after travelling for miles over property owned and controlled by a utility company. I could lose my "on-site" driving privelages if I incur driving and/or parking violation(s) resulting in accumulation of certain number of "points". That would mean getting a ride in with a co-worker every day.

I am subject to regular credit checks (once every few years) and criminal background history investigations. I am not complaining about the need for this. However, "word on the street" (for what its worth) indicated that a long-time employee was terminated due to "demonstrated unreliability". His legal history? Many unpaid tickets for riding a motorcycle without a helmet.

Every 5 years I have to re-take the MMPI (a psychological exam). Again, I am not complaining about the need for this. But here is a link to website petition to require presidential candidates to take the MMPI:
http://www.petitiononline.com/obamapet/petition.html

And here is an informal evaluation (using what scant info we have) of Obama's personality:
http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:TM3cEMXLHKEJ:www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html+faithfreedom.org+understanding+obama&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Its a cached copy because the faithfreedom.org website seems to be "down" at this time.

Very interesting reading.

Anyway, freedom is a tenuous thing. And Washingtonians believe the rules apply to others, not themselves.

92 posted on 01/25/2009 2:04:09 AM PST by txnuke (its an obamanation to us all.)
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To: Domandred
"The officer said "the DMV requires us to enter the driver's licenses of everyone in the vehicle that is involved in a traffic accident. I'll need to see it.""

I would have asked her, really, even my 2 year old who was in his car seat in the back??? Have they lowered the driving age recently???

I honestly don't understand all the people on here who support some little civil servant with a Napoleon complex making up arbitrary laws as they go. I don't care if she just came from a horrendous head-on collision. Know the law, if that is what you are paid to do, let the legislature write the law.

Rights are like muscles, you need to exercise them or they atrophy.

93 posted on 01/25/2009 2:04:15 AM PST by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: Aurorales
I am truly shocked by some of the responses on this thread.

FR has too many Republicans and too few conservatives.

94 posted on 01/25/2009 2:07:01 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: txnuke
Don't take this the wrong way, but your employment with this company is voluntary. So jumping through all of their hoops are also voluntary. If they were too onerous for you, you could always find another place of employment.

The government is held to a different standard, we have a Bill of Rights, at least theoretically it seems.

95 posted on 01/25/2009 2:08:40 AM PST by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: Straight Vermonter

I knew a cop who loved to tell people “I am the law”.

He got kicked off the force just a few years after being hired. Thank God.

Our rights are supposed to protect us from everyone. That includes law enforcement and our elected leaders.

It is a slippery slope. When we let a few small infringements go by, because they seem minor, we leave the door open for crooks to steal the rest.

It was great that you stood up for yourself. It is none of anyone’s business why you were driving at 2am. We need to follow your lead and all say “enough is enough”.


96 posted on 01/25/2009 2:11:15 AM PST by Aurorales
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To: Straight Vermonter

“FR has too many Republicans and too few conservatives.”
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I’m seeing that now. Sad.
I wonder if they understand the difference?


97 posted on 01/25/2009 2:16:11 AM PST by Aurorales
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To: rednesss
Like the picture.

As for the bootlicker part. I find your mentality no different than Code Pink's.

98 posted on 01/25/2009 2:58:32 AM PST by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: IrishCatholic
Not so bad the cop should have tazed you, but close.

Don't taz me, dude!

seems to me, the reason we allowed Leos to have tazers to begin with was crackheads and perps running around with knives that needed to be controlled safely from a distance for officer safety. So now, it's somehow progressed to tazing for being a 'jerk'??? Seems our Leos need to review the reasons tazers were authorized and keep them holstered except for extraordinary circumstances, instead of using them as a substitute for communication and patience. What the citizens voted for, they can vote against just as easily. imo jmo moo

99 posted on 01/25/2009 4:41:16 AM PST by blueplum
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To: Straight Vermonter
Why did the cop assume he was lying about his name?

Why did you presume that the cop assumed.....?

I surmise you should realize that things ofter are seldom what they seem.

100 posted on 01/25/2009 6:43:50 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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