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Was The Enlightenment in vain?
1 posted on 01/19/2009 9:42:36 PM PST by Coyoteman
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Get ready for the Flat Earth geology class and the geocentric astronomy class.

The good news for students is that they get to watch the Flintstones in biology class.


2 posted on 01/19/2009 9:48:59 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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There will no doubt be hundreds of inaccuracies in the textbooks anyways. Such as Global Warming is real, and manmade and WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE IF OBAMA FIX IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Public schools should not exist

3 posted on 01/19/2009 9:49:10 PM PST by GeronL (DAY 1, YEAR 0 - The first day of the rest of our lives. The first day of the Oministration.)
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For some reason many reject any insight into the miraculous processed God used to introduce life into a dynamic world, clinging instead to the limited oral traditions originating in languages completely incapable of expressing any scientific concepts.
6 posted on 01/19/2009 9:54:48 PM PST by Natural Law
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Great. And the media will try and link these nuts to the rest of us Christians. Then by extension conservatives and the GOP.

Some people will read whatever they want to into scripture. Is there any GOP official who will renounce these nuts? At the same time, take those who obsess over who is smoking what, who is sleeping with who, and those who expand the definition of being pro-life beyond being in favor of giving every child in the womb a chance at life, with them.

8 posted on 01/19/2009 9:58:27 PM PST by MovementConservative (Oregon Ducks 42, Oklahoma St. Cowboys 31)
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Just ram it down their throats and make them feel like a fool if they question anything they are taught. That’s what good teaching is all about, right?


10 posted on 01/19/2009 10:17:00 PM PST by smokingfrog (Never underestimate the influence of a wife who bitch-slaps her husband in public.)
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This is crap. Of course these people are wackos but you know what— when they something stupid the left and the media love to pile on them like they’re morons.

But they’re not so diff’t from Algore, NBC, and the left with their global warming “science”.


11 posted on 01/19/2009 10:18:03 PM PST by exist
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Charles Johnson at Little Green Footballs posted a nice Darwin quote the other day:
It has often and confidently been asserted, that man’s origin can never be known: Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science.

— Charles Darwin


13 posted on 01/19/2009 10:31:20 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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I think that the problem of teaching pseudoscience or superstition in science classes is less than the problem of simply not teaching key science. Take, for instance, evolution. Penn State Professor Michael Berkman finds that a majority of biology teachers either mention evolution for 2 hours max in a year’s classwork, or not at all. For my own part, I had three years of biology in high school and never heard mention of evolution. They didn’t give us creationist stuff, either: the teachers just didn’t talk about the origin of life or species at all. The result was that high school biology was my least favorite science: it was all just a lot of unorganized facts: frog / pig / cat muscles to memorize thoughtlessly. Loved physics and my 2 years of chemistry.

Also: if you or anyone else has a ping list for the pro-science side, would you kindly add me? I appreciate these posts.


15 posted on 01/19/2009 11:10:28 PM PST by Mogwai ("Chawlie, that huwt!")
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It is very difficult to wend one’s way between Creationists and climate warmists:

“Left out are rocks and minerals, ... geologic periods, ... weather, ... galaxies and ... stars, …. Instead, we included a great deal about climate and climate change, … energy resources, …, fossil fuels, .. Emphasized … space imagery and … GPS, personal computers, and the Internet. … (meteorologists probably won’t like it, but climatologists will love it!).”

Keep in mind taxpayers are funding this.


18 posted on 01/19/2009 11:27:21 PM PST by Bhoy
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The percentage of families home schooling their children will incress.

The percentage of families sending their children to church schools will increase.


19 posted on 01/19/2009 11:47:53 PM PST by John Leland 1789
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Irony in perspective: Coyoteman whines to Jim about all those 'anti-science kooks' (aka creationists) and gets slapped down..
23 posted on 01/20/2009 12:09:35 AM PST by Fichori (I believe in a Woman's right to choose, even if she hasn't been born yet.)
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I wonder how many Republicans actually want to stop the teaching of evolution.


24 posted on 01/20/2009 12:12:15 AM PST by TChad
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I think these arguments among Conservatives are silly. They are not productive in any way that I can see other than to divide. Let the parent decide what they want their child taught or not taught. It is just that simple.

My thinking is that evolution theory is rather meaningless to the bottom line so what a student knows or doesn’t know about it will not matter. I think many people are turned off because much of this complex theory is guesstimating and active imagination, that is, those parts which the average person thinks of as Evolution. In the end, to me, it just doesn’t matter. Here are the some of the greatest scientific discoveries and not one hangs on evolution theory save one; The Origin of Species: http://encarta.msn.com/column_scientificdiscoveries_tamimhome/10_Great_Scientific_Discoveries.html


25 posted on 01/20/2009 12:44:43 AM PST by WildcatClan (Obama is to the Presidency as Basquiat is to art.)
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For Schafersman, it was.

This is the same guy who continues to hold that the Shroud of Turin is a medieval artifact, denying the overwhelming scientific evidence to the contrary from multiple disciplines (remember, "confidence comes from consilience").

And it is people like Schafersman who will be leading the charge to link "conservatives" to "anti science irrationalists" -- you know, like Matt Damon's comments about Sarah Palin.

But the îber-libertarian types seem to think that almost anything else a person things or does, is irrelevant to public office -- only religious faith need disqualify them.

Go figure.

Cheers!

28 posted on 01/20/2009 3:45:46 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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“Was The Enlightenment in vain?”

IMO - Young Earth Creationism and Intelligent Design are forms of fundamentalist Protestant apologetics. The idea that the Enlightenment is the source of modern science originated from Protestant apologetics. So I’d say the answer to your question is no.

Does anyone have the pro-science ping list PatrickHenry used to have?


30 posted on 01/20/2009 6:02:55 AM PST by Varda
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The problem is that if such baboomery is adopted in Texas, it will be in all the nation’s text books. Plus, the company that evaluates textbooks is run by an elderly YEC, biblical literalist who has no problem injecting his religious views into his evaluations. If this goes through, Texas will become one fucked up state with respect to education. And all in the name of keeping kids stupid for the sake of a minority deviation from Christianity and Islam.


32 posted on 01/20/2009 7:11:21 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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Uh-huh...any thinking person understands that evolutionists project. That’s what you do, because most creationists I see are for teaching BOTH, and as I’ve said the facts (that would be the multiple lawsuits excluding anything other than the cult of evolution), speak for themselves.

You’ve left your dishonest self hanging out here like a big fat sore thumb again coytoteman.


39 posted on 01/20/2009 10:56:28 AM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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