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Father & Son Cut In Line At Walmart, Go To Jail
Consumerist (w/nod to Drudge) ^ | Jan. 13, 2009 | Chris Walters

Posted on 01/13/2009 11:01:53 AM PST by Michael.SF.

When 26-year-old Edward Pluhar Jr. decided to walk past the people waiting in line at Walmart's customer service desk over the weekend, he probably didn't expect one of the men he dissed to confront him over it. What he and his father really didn't expect, however, was for the guy to be an off-duty police officer who doesn't appreciate being threatened.

The police officer [Chris Kirby] told Pluhar Jr. he needed to wait his turn, but the Frankfort man purportedly refused.

[His father, 61-year-old Edward R. Pluhar Sr.,] then allegedly approached the off-duty officer, told him to mind his own business and asked whether Kirby wanted to take the dispute outside.

When Kirby asked Pluhar Sr. what his intentions were, the Frankfort man purportedly said he would kick Kirby's posterior and also suggested he might shoot him.

Kirby then informed the father and son that he was a police officer and called emergency dispatchers to send an on-duty officer to the scene.


TOPICS: Humor; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; muncie; nosoupforyou; policestate; thugwithabadge; walmart
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To: Michael.SF.
Cop... Walmart?

I'm going to assume the cop was being inventive with the facts

61 posted on 01/13/2009 3:34:12 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false face for the urge to rule." - H L Mencken.)
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To: latina4dubya
Sure they do and if someone cuts in front of a cop he should say something. A cutter is a bully though. If no one stands up to a bully they get away with this stuff. Regular people should not be afraid to stand up to them too though.

A lot of this could be avoided if stores would enforce rules. There is nothing wrong with a checker telling a customer that they are sorry but they have over 10 items and need to go to another register. Do it before they unload the basket though. Kick out the loud potty mouths and turn the half naked away at the door. Send the cutters to the back of the line.

62 posted on 01/13/2009 3:38:27 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Good word! It will become an integral part of my vocabulary. So many Democrats and too few apt and colorful names for them.


63 posted on 01/13/2009 3:44:55 PM PST by Dionysius
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To: thefactor; Michael.SF.

“a greeter put his hands on an off-duty cop who didn’t submit to an illegal bag search. so the cop pushed the greeter from what i understand.”


Unlike the cop in this story that stopped two possibly dangerous bullies, the other story is something different entirely.
A cop shoved a 71 year old greeter down and threw another customer through a glass door.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2163621/posts
“In the incident on Christmas Eve, Mr. Walker said an alarm went off when Det. Freeman and another city police officer, Edwin McPherson, were leaving the store.

He said he reached to try to stop Det. Freeman and he was pushed against a soft drink machine and to the floor. He said the officer then hovered over him as he lay on the floor.

A police report says a customer then told Det. Freeman, “You can’t push down an old man” and began struggling with him. It says Det. Freeman then shoved that man, Gholom Ghassedi, through a glass door. Officers found Mr. Ghassedi with blood on his neck, but he declined medical treatment.
Sgt. McPherson broke up the fight between Det. Freeman and Mr. Ghassedi.

Rick Watkins of Wal-Mart said an alarm was sounded when the 48-year-old Freeman walked by, causing Mr. Walker to try to stop him. Sgt. McPherson had already stopped for a receipt check.”


64 posted on 01/13/2009 5:52:47 PM PST by ansel12 ( When a conservative pundit mocks Wasilla, he's mocking conservatism as it's actually lived.)
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To: Michael.SF.
I was not calling you out directly MSF. I was hoping someone here could provide the legal rationale for the differentiation between civilian and off-duty cop. I cannot imagine the supermanesque feeling that goes with knowing whatever you do, either in your professional or private life, you are afforded the same level of protection under the law.

Let me see if I can simplify my question - boyfriend and girlfriend at bar. Another man offends girlfriend. Boyfriend steps in and says, “If you do that again I'll knock you out.” Said to a civilian it's no big deal if nothing happens. In fact, the boyfriend could threaten to kill the offending man, but as long as he doesn't act upon the threat, they both go home. Same thing said to an off-duty cop and you've threatened the life of a law enforcement officer. Huh?!?!

65 posted on 01/13/2009 5:53:01 PM PST by big truck
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To: big truck
I was not calling you out directly MSF.

Understood and it was not taken that way.

On a slight shift of topic, I have long advocated that there should be a law, call it "Breach of the public trust", which would be applicable to cops who act like jerks or politicians, who may not have technically broken other laws, but have done something highly suspect.

Blagojovich (sp?) for example, perhaps he never broke the law (since he never received payment) but they could charge him with this proposed law as a sort of umbrella coverage.

66 posted on 01/13/2009 6:00:03 PM PST by Michael.SF. ("They're not Americans. They're liberals! "-- Ann Coulter, May 15, 2008)
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To: Michael.SF.
I don't even want a special law - I simply would like the existing laws to apply to all people. If a cop is off-duty, then he is off-duty. Period. If a situation occurs and he responds, he should identify himself as law enforcement and follow the rules of engagement. If he gets ignorant or offensive and somebody shuts him down, so be it. No screaming “I'm a cop!” after the fact. If he's not in his blues, and he's not working undercover, he's the same as you and me. Ditto for politicos. Get busted DUI (think Kennedy) and that's it. No “I'm late for a vote” get out of DUI clause.
67 posted on 01/13/2009 6:10:48 PM PST by big truck
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
"Queue jumpers deserve nothing but the harshest measures in my view as an Englishman. In fact, if there was any justice, these men would then be taken from a lawful prison, to a place of execution were they shall be hanged by the neck until they are dead. Following which their remains shall be divided into quarters and hung in chains in queues all around the country, as a warning to others who would dare to commit this disgraceful crime...."

LOL! And that's just for the first offense. Wait till you see what happens to repeat offenders!

68 posted on 01/14/2009 9:20:22 AM PST by DE50AE
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To: Michael.SF.

Sweet justice!


69 posted on 01/15/2009 9:14:04 AM PST by TankerKC (Lately I miss the Y2K kooks.)
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