Posted on 01/03/2009 4:41:51 PM PST by don-o
I was driving through Lancaster, PA 10 years ago and was pulled over by a police office. I was with another business colleague and we were both dressed in business suits. The officer quickly said that two men matching our description had shoplifted some food from a convenience store.
My colleague and I immediately started laughing as I exclaimed “You mean two good looking men, dressed as businessmen and workout two hours a day ripped off some candy bars”? I apologized while we were all laughing and I was almost to point of tears it was so funny.
The officer said that it was the car that matched the description and we started laughing even harder. We were in Land Rover, not the kind of car that gets mistaken for anything.
I said they must have been pretty stupid to use a Land Rover as a get away car. I was trying not to laugh but it was no use.
Anyway the officer quickly apologized and excused himself.
My friend and I stayed there on the side of road making fun of each other and laughing until our stomachs were hurting.
The point is, most cops are doing their job and protecting you and I from dumb people and bad people.
The office only did a behavior assesment on you and you acted like a good and decent person, er citizen. Passing the first test of the minor “tell” interview he moved on to his job and bade you a good day.
He probably didn’t take any notes regarding you either.
Move on and have a good day.
Deflecting? Hardly. You seem to be attempting to paint me as someone who has no consideration of the rights of people when faced with scrutiny from law enforcement, yet can provide no example of those same rights being violated. You seem to expect perfection from everyone participating in an imperfect system.
And incidentally, the 'someone points a gun at you' part was to illustrate the irrelevance of your primary argument strategy (hence the use of 'you' which means, for lack of a better term, YOU, duh...), not an example of the way don-o was treated. But you already knew that. Only now, you don't have the option of playing dumb about it.
“Well, in this entire argument, no one’s rights HAVE been violated.”
Did I say there was? No I was pointing out your example of giving away your rights is not something I would do.
If you agree with this speaker about avoiding talking to the police at all times wouldn’t writing a letter to the police about this interaction don-o experienced also fall into that thing to avoid? However if that is the case what do you do if it was more serious and rights had been violated. Let us say don-o got beaten up by this cop. What is the proper way to go about things in that case. Writing a letter wouldn’t do I take it.
I always look into cars. Especially if a hottie wearing a mini skirt is driving.
The SC has ruled you MUST present I.D. to any cop who requests it. And they don’t have to have a reason.
This country is fast becoming another Nazi Germany. So sad.
the office in my post should be replaced with officer or police officer.
If the woman didn’t know the name of the man looking in her car, what good would it be for the cop to see the i.d. of anyone?
Truth be known the cop was probably just being nosey...and a cop.
What you WANT to do is tell the cop to stick it. And you want to tell the cop to go get the woman so you can face your accuser. I doubt if he could produce such a woman.
Stop, you're making my brain hurt, lol. Do you really think that there's no need to ever ID anyone, if you don't know the name of the suspect already?
Giving away what rights? I never advocated giving away any rights. I simply advocated respecting the powers that the law (the people) gives to law enforcement officers for the purpose of protecting all of our rights...JFK
Of course. We "subjects" should know better than to question the "authorities". The way I read it, Don-o was wondering about requesting information concerning policy. Does he not have the right to know what the policy of his police department is?
Don-O's post said: On reflection, I wonder if that is correct policy by the police and what would have happened if I had refused.
Is it the normal policy of police departments to target citizens for substandard service or protection, or subject them to harassment by all of the officers in that agency when the citizen has the audacity to ask for clarification regarding their policies?
Rather than ask honest question about the policies, maybe Don-o and the rest of us should just learn to enjoy the taste of boot polish.
Perhaps you need a hobby.
from then on it's court time
I have one - walking in my neighborhood and minding my own business. Thanks.
He radioed in for a warrant check.
b4l
I’ll take a weekend in the city or county as opposed to years in the state penn. And no, if you watch that you will see why you shouldn’t talk. Watch it and come back. They DON’T have the “RIGHT” to question you.
“Since when is it illegal to look into somebody’s car.”
I guess it would depend on what you mean by ‘look’. If your walking by and happen to look in a car I wouldn’t call that an issue but if your stopping at cars to look in, that is definitely suspicious and would require some explaining.
JB
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