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5 thoughts on Utah's Sugar Bowl win over Alabama
Foxnews ^ | January 3, 2009, 2:52 AM EST | CollegeFootballNews.com Pete Fiutak

Posted on 01/03/2009 12:25:39 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

1. Utah ... national champion?! Why not?

I still don't believe this is the best team in America, but without a playoff, it's all about the résumé.

This wasn't a fluky win and this wasn't a case of Alabama coming out flat. Utah straight-up whipped the Tide on both sides of the ball, and remember, this was against a team that was No. 1 for most of the year and was a quarter away from playing for the national title. This was a great, great 'Bama team, and Utah beat it like a drum.

This isn't 1984 BYU; that Cougars team didn't beat anyone as good as the 2008 Oregon State team, much less a TCU or an Alabama. This isn't 2004 Utah or 1999 Marshall or 1998 Tulane. So where, really, should Utah be put in the final rankings? If you're going to say No. 1, no matter what happens in the BCS championship game, it's hard to argue. Utah has to be ranked ahead of USC (on the deserve factor, although I still think USC wins easily on a neutral field) and I still want to see the Fiesta Bowl and the national championship. But even if Texas does what everyone thinks it's going to do and beats Ohio State, then Utah can't be any lower than third behind the Florida-Oklahoma winner and Texas. However, if Florida wins, then you could argue that Utah's win over 'Bama was more impressive than Florida's win in the SEC title game (even though Andre Smith was missing from the Sugar Bowl), and that the Utes deserve to be first over the Gators. If OU wins, then maybe No. 3 ... at worst. At the very least, the Mountain West needs ......

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KEYWORDS: alabama; bcs; beatbama; bowlgames; collegefootball; sugarbowl2008; utah; wareagle
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To: Tramonto
The SEC is obviously weak...

The SEC is 5-2 in Bowl Games this year with Florida left to play. Only the PAC-10 has a better record (5-0).

41 posted on 01/03/2009 2:53:59 PM PST by Onelifetogive (Let's get to altering or abolishing!)
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To: WarEagle
All it took was one season for all the Bama arrogance and entitlement to return...

Oh please... Alabama went 12-2 this year coming off a 7-6 season last year. Arrogance and entitlement? I'm just thrilled that we are back in the hunt. Bama earned it's record on the field. Nothing more, nothing less.

42 posted on 01/03/2009 3:01:36 PM PST by Onelifetogive (Let's get to altering or abolishing!)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

You really think that a contributer to Utah win is Urban Meyer?

The coaches of Utah probably had a little to do with it.

Don’t ya think.


43 posted on 01/03/2009 3:15:42 PM PST by GreyMountainReagan (Liberals really intend to increase the misery through their actions. Gives them power)
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To: glock rocks; Pete-R-Bilt; Brad's Gramma; SouthTexas

Your Tide is getting beat up over here and you displace the dogs under the bed? I’ll hang up and take the answer off the air...


44 posted on 01/03/2009 3:23:15 PM PST by tubebender (Looks like I lost another tag line to Bo ...)
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To: Comparative Advantage

They played TCU who is #2 in nation and clobbered us.

http://statistics.ncaafootball.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=ncaa-football&page=cfoot/stat/ncaa-team-totaldef.htm


45 posted on 01/03/2009 3:29:45 PM PST by neb52 (Currently Reading: The Senior by Mike Flynt)
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To: Tramonto
The SEC is obviously weak...

Considering how Ole Miss took care of Texas Tech, the Big 12 is even weaker.

46 posted on 01/03/2009 3:31:21 PM PST by dfwgator (I hate Illinois Marxists)
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To: Comparative Advantage
A playoff system is the only way to determine the best team this year. Anything less, is mythical.

Now look: a playoff for major college football is for juvenile obsessives, degenerate gamblers, and money people. Sports fans will spend time for the next six months arguing about who really is the best team. If we had a playoff we wouldn't get to have all this fun. The lack of a playoff is the best thing about intercollegiate football.

47 posted on 01/03/2009 3:44:03 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

We already have playoff systems for the smaller Divisions. Only the Major Division is without one.


48 posted on 01/03/2009 3:55:23 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: Onelifetogive

I can’t tell you how many times I heard “now we’re number 1 again, where we belong”. If that’s not arrogance and entitlement, then what is it?


49 posted on 01/03/2009 3:56:11 PM PST by WarEagle (Can America survive a President named Hussein?)
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To: tubebender

My Tide got rolled by the best. Get over it.


50 posted on 01/03/2009 5:10:28 PM PST by glock rocks (Well, it sounded like a good idea at the time... I'm preparing for the mud flow.)
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To: NittanyLion

The Ute QB played High School Football at Robert E. Lee H.S. in Baytown, Texas.


51 posted on 01/03/2009 5:35:37 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

That was my first thought as well (That Urban had given them some tips).


52 posted on 01/03/2009 5:57:40 PM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: GreyMountainReagan
"You really think that a contributer to Utah win is Urban Meyer?"

Yes, I do. Considering that Meyer came from Utah and the present head coach at Utah came through the ranks under Meyer ... yes, I believe that Urban gave the Utah coaches some pretty good information on how to play Bama.

"The coaches of Utah probably had a little to do with it."

No, they didn't have a little to do with it ... they had a bunch to do with it, and I don't discount that any more than I discount the players' involvement in the win. I never said that Urban won the darn game ... I said that he probably gave them some pretty good info.

53 posted on 01/03/2009 7:33:58 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
On ANY given Saturday ANY college football team CAN be beat!

That's why I love college football.

If we have a playoff the trash talk wont be fun anymore.

54 posted on 01/03/2009 7:37:58 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (mama, baby , obama drama to be continued...)
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To: BnBlFlag

TX has some serious HS football talent. They must get recruited from all over


55 posted on 01/03/2009 7:43:28 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: dfwgator
dude your gators and my bulldawgs would be undefeated with this schedule...the Utah coaches out smarted Bama coaches.

2008 Schedule/Results
DATE OPPONENT W-L (CONF) RESULT
8/30 @ Michigan 1-0 (0-0) W 25-23
9/06 UNLV 2-0 (1-0) W 42-21
9/13 @ Utah State 3-0 (1-0) W 58-10
9/20 @ Air Force 4-0 (2-0) W 30-23
9/27 Weber State 5-0 (2-0) W 37-21
10/02 Oregon State 6-0 (2-0) W 31-28
10/11 @ Wyoming 7-0 (3-0) W 40-7
10/18 Colorado State 8-0 (4-0) W 49-16
11/01 @ New Mexico 9-0 (5-0) W 13-10
11/06 No. 12 TCU 10-0 (6-0) W 13-10
11/15 @ San Diego State 11-0 (7-0) W 63-14
11/22 No. 14 Brigham Young 12-0 (8-0) W 48-24
1/02 vs. No. 4 Alabama 13-0 (8-0) W 31-17
Complete Team Schedule

56 posted on 01/03/2009 7:47:44 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (mama, baby , obama drama to be continued...)
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To: Comparative Advantage

You got that. I could name a half dozen without even thinking.


57 posted on 01/03/2009 7:56:34 PM PST by Corporate Law (Palin/Jindal 2012)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Do you think that Utah would have won without Urban Meyer’s help? (allegedly)


58 posted on 01/03/2009 8:24:11 PM PST by GreyMountainReagan (Liberals really intend to increase the misery through their actions. Gives them power)
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To: GreyMountainReagan

Yes, that is entirely possible.


59 posted on 01/04/2009 4:32:18 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: stainlessbanner

Yep. Texas players get recruited from sll over the Country. Before integration in the 70’s, it was primarily Black players heading North or West. Now, everybody’s fair game.
But Florida is no slouch itself though.


60 posted on 01/04/2009 4:41:14 AM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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