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Scipio Africanus
Vanity | 28,DEC,2008 | Myself

Posted on 12/28/2008 7:25:14 PM PST by M.K. Borders

Can anyone give the proper pronounciation for "Scipio", as in Scipio Africanus? Read the name for 40 years and have never heard it pronounced.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: hannibal; punicwars; rome
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To: Frank Sheed

Sheeeet man, them mugs was on.


21 posted on 12/28/2008 7:47:40 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: M.K. Borders

I once heard B.H. Liddell Hart, who I rank as one of the greatest military historians ever, pronounce it SKIP EE OH.

Liddell Hart wrote an entire book about Scipio Africanus.


22 posted on 12/28/2008 7:47:41 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Robwin
Skipee Ki Yay, Africanus!


23 posted on 12/28/2008 7:52:03 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: M.K. Borders
In the movie "Gladiator" it was pronounce Skip-pee-o
24 posted on 12/28/2008 7:52:05 PM PST by tophat9000 ( We are "O" so f---ed)
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To: M.K. Borders

"I wanna toucha de -anus..."

25 posted on 12/28/2008 7:53:28 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: tophat9000
Speaking of gladiators. Do you like gladiator movies Tommy?

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26 posted on 12/28/2008 7:55:21 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: cripplecreek

That movie kills me every time I watch it. It is beyond classic.

“Boy locked in refrigerator. Eats foot!”

Oy!


27 posted on 12/28/2008 7:56:42 PM PST by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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To: Bosco
“Latin is a dead language”

Uhmmm, what about legal profession and medical doctors? Look at some of those text books.

28 posted on 12/28/2008 8:10:39 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and may have doomed us for a generation or more.)
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To: M.K. Borders
I used to call him "Bob" until he gutted me with his gladius.

I got better.

29 posted on 12/28/2008 8:13:40 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: cripplecreek
Sheeeeet.

(golly)

30 posted on 12/28/2008 8:26:03 PM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: JSteff
Dead in the sense that it's not spoken. Written, obviously.

From my Latin class: "Latin is a dead language. It killed the Romans, and now it is killing me."

I'll stand on my brother's assertion: we don't have an audio recording of a genuine Latin speaker. The audio recording assumption in my post was implied.

Any pronunciation can be correct within grammatical reason. Scipio could have a hard 'C' or a soft 'C'. Take your pick, no one can prove it otherwise.

It's somewhat ironic that we don't know what the language of one of the most powerful empires on earth (Rome) sounds like, but we do know the language of one of its most influential subjects (a Jewish carpenter) sounds like - Hebrew and Aramaic.

All the best.

31 posted on 12/28/2008 8:30:58 PM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: Bosco

3-Scipio ?

32 posted on 12/28/2008 8:40:11 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Theoretically, 3-Cpio should know the correct pronunciation, but he's from the wrong galaxy. :)

Yes, I realize it's a play on Scipio...

33 posted on 12/28/2008 8:42:11 PM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: M.K. Borders; Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus has the proper pronunciation. However given his screen name, I thought he would not the obvious; you are using his cognomen (family name within clan) and agnomen (nickname, or in this case laudatory title_. His name was Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus. There is a second Scipio Africanus, Publius Cornelius Scipio Aemilianus Africanus Numantinus , the adoptive grandson of the first Scipio Africanus. The first was given the lauditory agnomen at the defeat of Carthage in the Second Punic War. The younger recieved it for defeating and then destroying Carthage in the Third Punic war.

(Somewhere, my grammar school Latin teacher is smiling.)

34 posted on 12/29/2008 12:12:47 AM PST by rmlew (The loyal opposition to a regime dedicated to overthrowing the Constitution are accomplices.)
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To: Bosco

“Latin is a dead language...”

“Latin, Latin dead as can be... Matter of fact it’s killing me.”

By the way, I got the second season of HBO’s “Rome” for Christmas!


35 posted on 12/29/2008 4:10:42 AM PST by Joe Marine 76 (God Save the Republic and God Bless the United States Marines!)
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To: M.K. Borders
Can anyone give the proper pronounciation for "Scipio", as in Scipio Africanus?


36 posted on 12/29/2008 5:34:11 AM PST by JRios1968 (Sarah Palin is what Willis was talkin' about!)
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To: rmlew; M.K. Borders
Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus has the proper pronunciation. However given his screen name, I thought he would not the obvious; you are using his cognomen (family name within clan) and agnomen (nickname, or in this case laudatory title_. His name was Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus. There is a second Scipio Africanus, Publius Cornelius Scipio Aemilianus Africanus Numantinus , the adoptive grandson of the first Scipio Africanus. The first was given the lauditory agnomen at the defeat of Carthage in the Second Punic War. The younger recieved it for defeating and then destroying Carthage in the Third Punic war.

LOL!

One more thing to warn M.K. about. If you ever play that Rome:Total War game, don't go by what the game says about the names of the principals involved. There was no gens Scipii (which, if you pluralise Scipio, would actually be Scipiones anywise). As rmlew observed, the Scipiones were of the gens Cornelii. And also, there was no gens Brutii, either. Brutus was the cognomen of Marcus Junius Brutus (aka for a period of time as Quintus Servilius Caepio Brutus), so his and the family's nomen would be Junii.

37 posted on 12/29/2008 5:48:55 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Nihil utile nisi quod honestum - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: Bosco

“From my Latin class: “Latin is a dead language.”

My daughter had 7 years of Latin and loved it. Of course she got out of college, went in to the Navy as an officer, took the LSAT tests and passed them on the first try.

She said that Latin made the test easier for her.


38 posted on 12/30/2008 4:56:42 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and may have doomed us for a generation or more.)
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To: JSteff
It's all about discipline, and studying Latin requires it.

Thank your daughter for her service to our country.

39 posted on 12/30/2008 5:37:29 PM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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