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Is it a good thing for lawyers to be totally running the country?
cowboyway | December 28, 2008 | cowboyway

Posted on 12/28/2008 7:43:38 AM PST by cowboyway

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To: MeanWestTexan

And Ann Coulter.


61 posted on 12/28/2008 9:44:00 AM PST by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: cowboyway

“Plus, Fred didn’t get his JD from one of the elitist Ivy League schools. “

How about we ban Ivy Leaguers from public office and from government employment in general?


62 posted on 12/28/2008 9:50:24 AM PST by dljordan
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To: cowboyway

It is NOT a good thing.


63 posted on 12/28/2008 9:59:15 AM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: MeanWestTexan
You asked for three; I gave you, what, 10? Off the top of my head! And then you bitch that I did give you enough. You must be a woman.

I commended your list, and then compared it to the infinitely more significant list of lawyers who destroy instead of build. You assert that I made demands which I did not. You must be an idiot.

64 posted on 12/28/2008 10:01:58 AM PST by TonyStark
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To: TonyStark

I think you have a problem with successful people.

Do you live in a trailer and bitch about how everyone took advantage of you? How you never got a “break”?


65 posted on 12/28/2008 10:09:16 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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To: cowboyway

Yep, given that 35 of the 55 “founding fathers” of our nation were lawyers, it’s part of the deal being a “nation of laws, not of men.”

Silly, knee-jerk lawyer bashing -— while bashing is so often diserved -— is a sign of a weak mind.

Most of the serious legal work in this world is corporate stuff -— selling businesses, partnership drafting, title work, business contracts, estate planning, risk-sharing stuff on projects, etc -— all done quietly with no fuss and great efficiency.

Doesn’t make headlines, and “civilians” don’t come across it much.

Instead, they deal with -— ambulance-chasers, criminal lawyers and prosecutors, and divorce lawyers.

Well, that’s the bottom of the practice, no doubt.


66 posted on 12/28/2008 10:15:10 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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To: TonyStark

Oh, and welcome to Free Republic, newbie.


67 posted on 12/28/2008 10:16:47 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
I think you have a problem with successful people. Do you live in a trailer and bitch about how everyone took advantage of you? How you never got a “break”?

Ah, I get it. You *are* a lawyer, or the son of a lawyer, or are in some sort of parasite-on-a-parasite relationship with a lawyer. Gay lover maybe?

BTW, in general terms, lawyers are never successful: They are, at best, simply wealthy at the expense of the productive. They only become truly successful when they leave jurisprudence and do something moral and productive, like run a talk show.

And a little personal advice: It's never to late to turn straight, big boy.

68 posted on 12/28/2008 10:17:44 AM PST by TonyStark
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To: MeanWestTexan
Oh, and welcome to Free Republic, newbie.

Why, thank you kindly.

69 posted on 12/28/2008 10:19:14 AM PST by TonyStark
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To: TonyStark

Bye, Newbie.


70 posted on 12/28/2008 10:21:40 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Most of the serious legal work in this world is corporate stuff -— selling businesses, partnership drafting, title work, business contracts, estate planning, risk-sharing stuff on projects, etc -— all done quietly with no fuss and great efficiency.

Doesn’t make headlines, and “civilians” don’t come across it much.

Instead, they deal with -— ambulance-chasers, criminal lawyers and prosecutors, and divorce lawyers.

Well, that’s the bottom of the practice, no doubt.

I actually agree with this dichotomy. I will point out though, that civil lawsuits (and government lawyers of all stripes) are the reason why what would otherwise be straightforward contractual agreements turn into retainers for rafts of lawyers and exorbitant costs of doing business.

What you are citing here is the difference between eloquence in expression of logic, and redistribution of wealth based on the stupidity of judges (who are mostly failed lawyers). If the profession of "lawyer" had any sort of reasonable requirements for performance, external watchdog oversight, or non-guild adversarial peers, it would be a vastly improved vocation both in terms of perception and actual value.

71 posted on 12/28/2008 10:27:34 AM PST by TonyStark
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To: MeanWestTexan

Of the 55 signatories to the Declaration of Independence 35 of them were lawyers of some kind.

I am not a lawyer, but the malignment of lawyers as a group is silly.”

I didn’t malign them as a group, but as ‘legislators’.....have you noticed the “law” has been reinvented recently and nothing good happens in this country because of the LAWYERS running it?

Our Constitution, and the Declaration are, if nothing else, about balance. And the lawyers have us WAY out of balance.

BTW, I count 25 of the signers were lawyers.

http://www.usconstitution.net/declarsigndata.html

And many of our founders tried to warn us:

“It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood.” James Madison


72 posted on 12/28/2008 1:29:11 PM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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The big name law schools do not even teach precedent anymore. They aren’t interested in past interpretations of the law, only the perverted new interpretations of restorative justice. Harvard was the first to announce this move away from teaching precedent, but many of the others have followed and have graduated at least one class of these new lawyers.

They seem to have a difficult time passing the boards, though. They tell me that passing the boards isn’t really necessary, that a lot of the work can be done without entering a court room.


73 posted on 12/28/2008 1:35:51 PM PST by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: Venturer

What happened to that Amendment to the Constitution that kept lawyers out of government?
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That amendment said nothing about lawyers “in” government and got it pigeonholed.


74 posted on 12/28/2008 4:07:29 PM PST by Joan Kerrey
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

Don’t worry — lawyers aren’t really interested in the law, merely in bossing everyone around as they enrich themselves.


75 posted on 12/28/2008 4:24:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, December 6, 2008 !!!)
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To: cowboyway

A great idea. Just look at any market.


76 posted on 12/28/2008 4:25:09 PM PST by jwalsh07
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