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Major PC Hardware Upgradce
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Posted on 12/20/2008 6:59:49 AM PST by wendy1946

Putting new computers together from scratch is relatively easy. A much bigger trick is totally moving an existing software system including the OS and every piece of software on the computer to a totally new hardware base.

Symantec offers a commercial product (Ghost) which is supposed to do that but which is problematical for several reasons. The Free Software Foundation offers a stunningly good piece of software along such lines:

http://www.clonezilla.org

I've used Clonezilla for work projects which have mainly involved cloning linux systems, and last week put it to a kind of an ultimate test which it passed easily. The idea was that my father had a computer dating from win95 days which had been upgraded to XP and a gig of memory but which was still stultifyingly slow and, my father being close to 100 years old is not really into learning entirely new systems.

What I managed to do was obtain a bare-bones system at a local marketpro show including a reasonable case, an Asus mother board with a gig of memory, a 64-bit dual-core chip, 160-gb SATA disk and a CD drive which can at least play dvds and all of that was just about $310 including taxes

Then the question was, would an image of the old system snapped with Clonezilla and xferred to the new one even boot and if it did, would XP be bright enough to at least give the snake a mouse and keyboard and let him try to load other drivers from the CD which came with the motherboard?

The answer to everything was basically yes and the ONLY little fly in the ointment was the RealTec audio circuitry on the motherboard for which no driver either included or available at Asus, RealTec, or anywhere else on the net would work. I disabled the onboard sound and added a $10 sound card to the system and alles was in ordnung. Google searches on "realtec sucks" turn up lots of hits....

The fact that barebones systems come without software helps the situation. That knocks a hundred to a couple of hunded dollars off the cost and since you're tossing the old computer, you don't need to be paying for duplicate copies of software. Windows itself will insist on you re-registering, but that's legitimate and free.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: cloning; hardware; upgracde; upgrade
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1 posted on 12/20/2008 6:59:50 AM PST by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946

well ok


2 posted on 12/20/2008 7:01:44 AM PST by devane617 (...And to the Republic For Which It Stood...)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Ping—to the only person I know who would know anything about this. I’ll just stick to buying my Macs and getting someone to show me how to do stuff with them—LOL! (Usually 2nd Amendment Mama)


3 posted on 12/20/2008 7:05:37 AM PST by basil (Support the 2nd Amendment--buy another gun today)
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To: wendy1946

I Upgradce to a super quadrature fravistat


4 posted on 12/20/2008 7:06:16 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: wendy1946
Mmmmmmmm.... Ice cream!


5 posted on 12/20/2008 7:06:28 AM PST by library user
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To: wendy1946

You nerd. :)


6 posted on 12/20/2008 7:13:14 AM PST by LiberConservative ("I would have looked forward to debating anybody." -Sarah Palin)
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To: Nightshift

gnip...


7 posted on 12/20/2008 7:13:46 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: basil

The process I describe here would probably work for a mac. The hard disks aren’t likely to be that much different.


8 posted on 12/20/2008 7:14:41 AM PST by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946

Ummm... XP didn’t complain about licensing?


9 posted on 12/20/2008 7:17:48 AM PST by djf (< Tagline closed until further notice. Awaiting bailout >)
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To: wendy1946

Clonezilla is great. I use it to backup my system drive whenever I install new software.


10 posted on 12/20/2008 7:22:39 AM PST by pelicandriver
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To: djf

I mentioned that. XP insisted that I re-register, but that doesn’t cost anything and is legitimate. The only thing msoft is interested in is that there aren’t two computers out there using the same copy of XP and, in the situation described here, the old computer is being tossed.


11 posted on 12/20/2008 7:25:38 AM PST by wendy1946
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i don't know about how it is now, but... at one time when windows was installed it looked at what the processor and the chip sets were, then configured itself accordingly so switching motherboards/processors could be tricky when cloning since windows was loading drivers for stuff that may no longer there...

so question, is windows no longer required to load to the installed processor/chipsets or does it reconfigure itself on the fly???

12 posted on 12/20/2008 7:29:02 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist -)
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To: wendy1946

Yup. You did, at the very end. My bad.

I use Ghost and never had a problem.


13 posted on 12/20/2008 7:29:06 AM PST by djf (< Tagline closed until further notice. Awaiting bailout >)
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To: wendy1946

LOL! The process you describe here look like Greek to me.....I pretty much know how to turn my computer off and on, get to FR and my email. A bit of an exaggeration, maybe, but only because of the help of 2nd Amendment Mama


14 posted on 12/20/2008 7:33:15 AM PST by basil (Support the 2nd Amendment--buy another gun today)
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To: wendy1946
The only thing msoft is interested in is that there aren’t two computers out there using the same copy of XP

That isn't necessarily true. If you buy a computer from an oem like Dell, the windows license remains with the PC and you don't have rights to move it.

15 posted on 12/20/2008 7:35:55 AM PST by EVO X
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To: wendy1946
I use acronis with universal restore for migrating to new hardware. its been great. I love acronis. much better than ghost in my experience...
16 posted on 12/20/2008 8:07:30 AM PST by dubie
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To: wendy1946

Thanks for the post, while I’m not usually in the habit of migrating Win9x systems into XP or Vista hardware-friendly environments, Clonezilla sounds like it could be useful, and I thank you for the information! :)


17 posted on 12/20/2008 8:16:35 AM PST by mkjessup ('Keep Christ in CHRISTmas', I wonder if Jesus would WANT to be in what passes for His Birthday, eh?)
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To: Chode

Good question. The chipsets are obviously close enough, that is, from a mid 90s Intel chip to a 2008 chip, and XP was able to configure for a basic scren, keyboard, and mouse by itself, leaving me to load drivers for graphics, sound, and ethernet circuitry.


18 posted on 12/20/2008 8:17:39 AM PST by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946; Tax-chick
Major PC Hardware Upgradce

Upgradce that spell-czech softwear to.

19 posted on 12/20/2008 8:26:36 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro

I think Upgradce is in Slovakia.


20 posted on 12/20/2008 8:41:37 AM PST by Tax-chick ("And the rum is for all your good vices.")
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