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To: Tennessee Nana
...."Does Warren really believe that Obama has a mandate from God ????"......

You do if you believe the Bible. We get the leaders we deserve from God. The Bible's OT teaches that the Jews got good leaders when they followed God and bad leaders, when they strayed. They even were destroyed and enslaved when it was called for.

Can you really blame God if a nuke hits America with starvation and economic ruin? We've murdered 40,000,000 of his children, recognized sodomy as a legal act, and pretty much outlawed the Living God of the Universe from all American locals and activities.

People seem to believe that if you sin, a lightning bolt comes from heaven to take you out immediately. It is more like a cancer that takes years and even decades to kill you. Make no mistake, God doesn't forget and you will reap what you sow.

If a nuke hits American soil, would we immediately think we have fallen from God's Grace, or think it was just a bad break? We were attacked in NYC and many found meaning in the Word of God,........for a few months. Now,... not so much. Lukewarmers, aren't especially liked by God. We voted,.... we made the choice,.... now comes the reaping of what we have sown. That is the way God works.

28 posted on 12/17/2008 4:25:06 PM PST by chuckles
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To: chuckles

PERFECTLY stated.


29 posted on 12/17/2008 4:33:25 PM PST by dixiedarlindownsouth (For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son)
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To: chuckles
PS.

If Warren wanted to make a major contribution to God, he would refuse to give the oath, and make it very public as to why. He should say an oath to a liar means nothing. He would stir a minor earthquake and could use the 15 minutes of fame to further the Kingdom.

Making Obama answer for his misguided beliefs would be interesting to watch and a teachable moment for many Americans. Just ignoring it and allowing the patina of God's acceptance of Obama's beliefs is a huge slap at God's Divine Appointment offered to Warren. God may have arranged for Obama to be president, but he also arranged for Warren,( probably the most accepted religious figure in America today now that Graham is so sick), a stage to declare the Word of God. As usual, God needs a prophet and gets a wimp. Prophets were usually stoned to death because they wouldn't water down the Word of God.

31 posted on 12/17/2008 4:34:38 PM PST by chuckles
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To: chuckles

You have taken my comment out of context...

Go back and read it again...

Meanwhile...

..for He maketh His sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. Matthew 5:45


36 posted on 12/17/2008 5:03:17 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: chuckles; Tennessee Nana
May I jump in :)

TN, I understand your post....and why you would express it just that way...

Chuckles, even though you are Biblically correct in your response to TN, you are missing her point.

There is a fine line from......

.. Yes, God has allowed Obama to win the nomination (as judgment against us,IMO)...

..To..Obama thinks he has a mandate & blessing from God to do whatever he wants, ie...continued & stepped up abortion, acknowledging & rewarding the homosexual community, promoting chaos/evil/uncertainty.

God HATES what Obama espouses....abortion, homosexuality, strife & conflict against Christians, etc.

...but God has allowed him (so far, unless things change) to assume this office.

Our nation has corporately sinned bigtime!...can you imagine the stench in God's nostrils with us, a nation once blessed

We have allowed 50 million innocent unborns to be killed in the womb!

Pampers has a sweet new Christmas commercial out and it's simply beautiful... sweet sleeping babies faces, closeup and adorable

Try to imagine this commercial next time you see it, and multiply it by 50 million!!..

..I was just reading about persecution this AM in Revelation.

Nothing new....we are always to be ready, to be prepared to give testimony to our Lord and Savior no matter what the circumstances.

55 posted on 12/18/2008 6:16:07 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: chuckles; Salvation; cpforlife.org; little jeremiah
I'm thinking about what you wrote. It does make sense: Obama could be the "scourge on our backs" that will finally make us realize we've screwed up bad: like the Assyrians in relation to Israel. We can't even fathom how evil we've become, valorizing proud perversion and killing off 1/3 of the children we conceive, every year for the past 35 years. I am reminded of the dragon that appears in the sky in Revelation, the one whose tail sweeps 1/3 of the stars from the sky.

Speaking for myself, I'm sure finding a motive for repentance.

As for Rick Warren --- I will wait til I hear what he says in his invocation. Courtier or prophet? We shall see.

56 posted on 12/18/2008 6:34:21 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("We'll be watching your career with great interest, Anakin." --- Darth Sidious)
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