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Serious security flaw found in Internet Explorer (Experts urge IE users to switch browsers)
BBC ^ | December 16, 2008 | Staff

Posted on 12/16/2008 4:22:33 PM PST by Bokababe

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To: vigilante2

...more details on installation requirements.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements


41 posted on 12/16/2008 5:36:04 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: conivorous

Thank you,

I understood about the browsers, I was confused about the Linux, but I think I have it now..


42 posted on 12/16/2008 5:36:59 PM PST by vigilante2 (Thank You Troops)
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To: Stentor

Thanks. I’ll have a look at LinuxMint.


43 posted on 12/16/2008 5:37:53 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: Aliska

This should help:
http://runfirefox.com/firefox-vs-ie.html

Keep IE7, you don’t need IE8. Both the Firefox icon and the Internet Explorer icon will appear on your desktop. Click on whichever browser you choose to use. When you use the Firefox browser, your IE7 is inactive and cannot be accessed by hackers. The Firefox browser is exponentially more secure than the IE7. But you may need IE7 once in awhile because some websites are IE7 specific, though the number of those sites diminishes daily.


44 posted on 12/16/2008 5:40:32 PM PST by conivorous
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To: conivorous
But you may need IE7 once in awhile because some websites are IE7 specific

For that you can use IETab.

45 posted on 12/16/2008 5:42:39 PM PST by cornelis
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To: conivorous

Thank you. I’ll see what firefox has available, there was a thread on it not too long ago, and something wasn’t working as well with the latest, can’t remember what. I’m not sure what add-ons to choose.


46 posted on 12/16/2008 5:43:18 PM PST by Aliska
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To: hamboy

Safari? You have to be kidding. Firefox for the win!


47 posted on 12/16/2008 5:49:24 PM PST by johncatl (...governs least, governs best.)
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To: conivorous

I can’t get a link to work to dl Firefox 3.0 in either Netscape or IE7. Hmmm. Moused over lots of places, nothing to click on, don’t get the hand, etc.


48 posted on 12/16/2008 5:52:12 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Bokababe; All

Google is really making a push for the browser market with Chrome and seeing as Gates was looking to challenge Google by trying to buy out Yahoo, I would not put it past the info nazi’s at Google to slam IE.

Chrome is nice and pretty quick, but I prefer Firefox.


49 posted on 12/16/2008 5:53:20 PM PST by Mr. Jazzy (Happy 233rd Birthday, USMC!!!)
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To: conivorous
That link you gave me was 2.0 not 3.0.

Now I'll have to see if some other download will work.

50 posted on 12/16/2008 5:53:27 PM PST by Aliska
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To: johncatl
Safari? You have to be kidding. Firefox for the win!

Safari for Windoze is the fastest browser running on Windoze, actually. Firefox got that annoying "Restore your Session" or "Start new Session." Firefox often crashes if I try "Restore Session."

51 posted on 12/16/2008 5:57:34 PM PST by hamboy
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To: cornelis

Yessir.
I just figured that too much information at one time can be scary.


52 posted on 12/16/2008 6:03:43 PM PST by conivorous
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To: Aliska

here:
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/

The other link was for information.


53 posted on 12/16/2008 6:03:43 PM PST by conivorous
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To: conivorous

Thank you! I rebooted just in case. Will go there now.


54 posted on 12/16/2008 6:06:43 PM PST by Aliska
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To: conivorous
Well, I'm sittin' here using FF 3.0.5 as I write. The first download wouldn't install so I did it again and got through it, said I didn't want to import anything and didn't want it as my default browser but chose the standard rather than custom.

Hope I like it and will try a couple fav sites now to see how it works on them.

In case anyone else has a problem, the first dl didn't show the blue squares on the progress bar but seemed to come to a normal termination after about 5 or 6 min.

So I went to the dl folder, and the icon was a squarish thing with a lot of white inside, can't remember what else it looked like but had an .exe, wouldn't even start, got an error. I deleted that and did the dl again. This time it showed the status bar along with the percentage and timer was counting down. The icon in the dl folder is an open box with a lavender cd, says Firefox Setup 3.0.5.exe.

Thanks again for the help.

55 posted on 12/16/2008 6:34:02 PM PST by Aliska
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To: All

Sorry for posting & leaving but it’s my birthday. I went out to dinner & just got back.

I’ve been using Firefox for two years and love it. I’ve only run into a small issue twice where a website required I use IE, so I copied the web address and opened it using IE. No biggie.

Then a couple months ago, Firefox offered an IE extension so I downloaded it. Now if I run into that issue again, all I have to do is go to the Tools menu on Firefox and switch over to IE to use on that website.

I know that there was a lot of talk about Linux, etc. This warning is just a browser issue at the moment, not a whole operating system issue!


56 posted on 12/16/2008 6:45:16 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Aliska

Wow, you seem to have a plethora of problems. I’ve downloaded Firefox multiple times, done many many updates on many different machines, on different operating systems, and never had the trouble you’ve described.

Anyhoo, you might want to check out the multiple tabs, the extensions you can add to firefox.... I always get Foxmarks which syncs my bookmarks between whatever computer I’m using, and I also get Adblock Plus.


57 posted on 12/16/2008 6:48:05 PM PST by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant penguin on my Head")
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To: CE2949BB
You left off SeaMonkey
58 posted on 12/16/2008 7:34:55 PM PST by PAR35
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To: familyop
Ubuntu easier to install and use than Windows (and much better, prettier and more feature-ful). ...does everything Windows does (even for office and play) but more and better.

If you don't want to do all of the partition and dual boot and install, I recommend Puppy Linux. Burn it to a CD, boot from the CD, and install a couple of small files on your regular Windows hard drive. Light on features (but expandable) and glitz, but for a fast booting system, it can't be beat.

I've done the 'boot from CD' with Ubuntu, but it really isn't much faster than a Windows boot.

Trying to set up wireless on a cheap laptop can be less than fun with Linux.

59 posted on 12/16/2008 7:45:39 PM PST by PAR35
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Wow, you seem to have a plethora of problems

Yup. This is long but I may need to copy and paste it later. All started recently. And I did so much I can't remember the order in which things started going wrong. I did let the tech at EL take over my computer to try to speed up my system; he deleted Ad-Aware, Spybot and the MS one to keep them from running in the bg. I could have done all that myself. But it could be something else. IE7 just would not load one page sometime after that plus I noticed my Norton Internet Security and Norton Protection Center were missing by the clock. I finally got them back where I wanted them by fiddling, then IE7 and my FTP uploader started working again, don't know if it was the firewall or what.

Earthlink also checked my dsl line from their end and thought something wrong, got the phone company out here. He came and couldn't find anything at my modem, the connections, the box outside the house, or the cable in the alley. So the phone company found that on their end with something wrong there and fixed it.

At some point in all this, dsl (my moden, ditched the router long ago) went down, and I couldn't get it back up no matter what. Just at close of business last Fri, the phone company must have flipped something, and my modem finally was able to reconnect.

But even with FF now I checked my speed at 2wire and only am getting 15.97 Mbps. Checked all browsers tonight. Netscape 10.31 Mbps and IE7 69.77 Mbps.

The biggest annoyance now is that I cannot play any videos without stopping many times to buffer some more. At first I thought it was just youtube has too much traffic all of a sudden, but it is the same on several other video sites.

I guess I won't bother with Foxmarks but will look for that Adblock plus if I start getting popups I don't want. Let's let things settle down.

Now I'll wait for the IE7 fix and joined some more newsgroups and see if I can get some help figuring out why IE7 will not open with a blank page. I changed it umpteen times using tools>internet options to about:blank, hit apply then hit ok. Tech couldn't get it to work either doing the same thing. I even found a place on the control panel where I could do it. No matter what I do, it keeps hijacking me to a Microsoft page for a few seconds then flips into msn.com news. It's faster to open with a blank.

I just now grabbed it in a screen cap, typed it carefully. I pasted it back in IE7 then tried Netscape, it redirects me quickly to msn.com.

Here is where it first takes me, think it's a redirect link, don't copy and paste it.

http://www.microsoft.com/isapi/redir.dll?prd=ie&clcid=0x4098pver=6.08ar=home

I'll figure it out somehow. For months it was showing AOL Online at the top right of IE7, launched it with the shortcut, forgot to check the version. Then in troubleshooting why it wouldn't load pages, I went into Program Files and found IE7 and launched it from there. The AOL on the right was gone. Now all it shows on the top bar is the url where it currently is and then Windows Internet Explorer. I checked the version, and it is 7.0.5730.11. There is a phishing filter update I dl'ed but don't want to install yet. It is called IE7-KB928089-WindowsXP-x86-enu.exe. I did an advanced search on the KB# using all the system, hidden and subfolders, takes forever, don't seem to have it installed.

Somehow that aol got on there from when my daughter either logged into AOL from my computer (after that it wiped out my entire Netscape inbox and address book, and I had to reinstall) OR it could be from when I first got this computer in 2002, I got 6 months aol, already had my preferred isp but decided I'd use the freebie aol because I used to like their message boards, that was all I liked about aol.

They are so aggressive when you want to stop them, kept giving me more free months, finally my son called them and made them stop my subscription.

Now Earthlink has directed me to a new program I dl'ed called PC Fine Tune, then I find out it's going to cost me an extra $4.95 a month, am already paying $60 something so I don't want to pay that really. I am not going to try that until I feel confident enough to run it, who knows what in the heck it will do?

I think all this tinkering may have messed something up. Tomorrow I'll go into safe mode and see if videos play right but then I doubt I'll have my firewall, could turn on the Windows one but Norton which has a firewall keeps turning it off again or it is something else.

There was a trouble ticket, it is now elevated 3 tiers, and EL still doesn't know what's wrong. After talking to at least 5 different techs with an accent today for over an hour, I was so tensed up, I said I'd call them back tomorrow.

Thanks for the tips.

60 posted on 12/16/2008 8:19:20 PM PST by Aliska
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