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What I really want to avoid is paying money for the setup and finding out after a month or so that the service sucks and I'm locked into a 24 month plan that would cost a few hundred dollars to get out of.
1 posted on 12/09/2008 12:19:06 PM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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Have you thought about Verizon Wireless Internet?


2 posted on 12/09/2008 12:22:06 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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“What I really want to avoid is paying money for the setup and finding out after a month or so that the service sucks and I’m locked into a 24 month plan that would cost a few hundred dollars to get out of.”

Can you not express exactly that to the rep?


3 posted on 12/09/2008 12:23:22 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Our government is an edifice of artifice.)
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Wireless IE Verizon or Alltel


4 posted on 12/09/2008 12:23:27 PM PST by devistate one four (H I V Homophobia Is Vindicated)
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If Hughes net is like my directv, forget having a signal on a rainy day. If you live in the boonies, it’s still better than nothing tho.


5 posted on 12/09/2008 12:23:44 PM PST by o_zarkman44 (Since when is paying more, but getting less, considered Patriotic?)
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Interesting. I’m moving to the booneys of Kentucky and I have been wondering about this as well. I just assumed I would go Sattelite. I didn’t realize it would be expensive.


6 posted on 12/09/2008 12:25:36 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in the 1930's.)
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A friend has WildBlue and I helped install it.

WIldBlue is the best of the satellite options, with the least latency. However, a great latency may be 700 milliseconds to a website for the next exchange of communication. With DSL or cable, a good latency might be 40-70 milliseconds.

Satellite would make interactive voice, video, or gaming, quite annoying. However, other web activities won't seem too bad.

The throughput on WildBlue was almost 1.5 MB/sec, which is as much as twice the speed of low-end-DSL. I was very impressed.

But I do a lot of Skype Voice-over-IP stuff, so I'd have a fit with satellite, as it wouldn't be practical with my usage.

You might look into WiMax installs in your area, as that access would be great. Otherwise, Sprint is supposed to have unlimited internet for a reasonable price, which might be 2 Mb/sec burst, with an average of 400-60 Kb/sec. Verizon limits it to 5 GB for the month, so they wouldn't be worth looking into. Sprint would have a latency of up to 130 milliseconds with a PCMCIA modem, which is still very doable with voice and video.

I hope this helps.

7 posted on 12/09/2008 12:26:33 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Obama is bringing in every crook and bumbler he can to assure consistency in his message.)
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Well, this was easy: http://www.wildbluesatellite.net/

My problem solved...worst case scenario anyway...


8 posted on 12/09/2008 12:28:17 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in the 1930's.)
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I suspect you won’t be happy with 2-way sat internet. I had a friend on it for years and he could never get much more than 10k/sec up and up to about 40k down. If it rained or snowed, he was offline.

Is there any method you can improve your current provider? Perhaps put your antennae on a pole or say a 40 foot tower?
You’ll probably have better results in the end.


10 posted on 12/09/2008 12:31:56 PM PST by Malsua
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By the way, VPN would be exceeding slow on such a high-latency connection, with most incarnations of it.

The problem with high latency comes from the need to get frequent acknowledgment packets. Much of the behavior with websites needs very little constant confirmation. Secure connections generally need constant confirmation.


11 posted on 12/09/2008 12:34:09 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Obama is bringing in every crook and bumbler he can to assure consistency in his message.)
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Your no gaming saves you, as satellite latency kills it. Mostly the same for VPN.

Satellite is fine for watching video where you need bandwidth but don’t care about latency. FTP is slow over satellite for multiple files (the up to one second latency hits for each file), so zip into one file, upload/download, then unzip on the destination machine. SSH is hit or miss, ask the provider whether they have certain optimizations that can help SSH performance, demand a demo if they claim it works well.


13 posted on 12/09/2008 12:37:41 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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I had DirecPC for a while because it was the only thing available to me for broadband. After a couple of years I switched to Starband which is Dish's version of satellite broadband because it was a bit cheaper. The two services were pretty much the same. The download speed was good but the upload speed was very slow. There is also a lot of latency in the connection so its not as snappy as DSL or Cable.
The connection was good unless it was very cloudy and stormy. They recommend (and sell) a dialup plan for bad weather backup. You don't have to use their dialup service but they recommend you have one. I never needed it.
This is definitely not a gaming setup because of the latency.

Both services cost a small fortune for equipment and installation.

The worst thing for me was that the IP address you get on both services is not publicly routable so you can't run any type of service that is publicly accessible (ie a web server or email server).

Your mileage may vary, all this was several years ago.

The day the phone company called and told me DSL was available, I switched and bought out of my satellite contract. The price difference was worth it and the service is better. I've never looked back.
14 posted on 12/09/2008 12:39:07 PM PST by a_screen_name
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My sat experience taught me to just get a dedicated POTS line and run at 56K ... yes, it was ‘that’ bad.


15 posted on 12/09/2008 12:39:07 PM PST by elpinta (Insured by Walther, Glock, Smith & Wesson.)
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One other possible option: microwave. This require line-of-sight, and here in the Midwest, it is usually the top of silos where you orient the receiver toward.

Their latency, as I recall from a former client, was about a third of satellite.


16 posted on 12/09/2008 12:39:26 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Obama is bringing in every crook and bumbler he can to assure consistency in his message.)
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Or you can wait on Obamessiah’s promise of broadband access free for everyone :)


17 posted on 12/09/2008 12:39:37 PM PST by FORTRUTHONLY (Easy as 3.14159265358979323846...)
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How about a 900MHz Yagi antenna? That would be enough to help you pull in that signal... you said it usually works well... this might improve it to almost all the time.


18 posted on 12/09/2008 12:41:37 PM PST by Bon mots
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>> I had a local provider install a 900 MHz link. When it works, it works well. So far it seems to work very intermittantly <<

How high is your antenna? Put it on top of a 75’ Rohn tower and you might be OK!

(Unless there’s high hill between you and the nearest repeater station.)


19 posted on 12/09/2008 12:42:57 PM PST by Hawthorn
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You could also look at a "Wok-Fi" type solution.

What is Wok-Fi?

20 posted on 12/09/2008 12:45:03 PM PST by Bon mots
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I don’t know the future of this, but I’ve had Clearwire for nearly a year and love it. Not as fast as the fastest DSL, but faster than Satellite, and you can move around.

http://www.rcrwireless.com/article/20081205/WIRELESS/812049987/1096/MVNO/812049987/


21 posted on 12/09/2008 12:49:21 PM PST by js1138
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I run a wireless ISP. If your 900 wireless is intermittent, get the ISP to fix it. I haven’t generally found much that can’t be overcome eventually with effort and a little trial and error.

Raising the antenna, re aiming, etc, are often the real fixes for 900 intermittency.

for the most part, 900 can fool the installer, by having a stronger “bounce” than direct signal, and the installer will point the antenna at the bounce, which turns out to be dependent on weather, temperature, etc.

If nothing else, it’s also possible to do inexpensive “relay” sites. I can build a 900 relay site for about 700 bucks with the equipment I use, and it works very well.


22 posted on 12/09/2008 12:52:37 PM PST by The Watcher
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I have one of the old DirecPC dishes in the barn.
First generation satellite link. used a phone line for up-link / satellite for down link,,

it was great for large files before hughes instituted its fair access policy and throttled back bandwidth .. anyway anything would beat dial-up but too many medical bills now, so what the hey.

any modern satellite system requires it be installed by fcc licensed tech because of transmitting to satellite.

23 posted on 12/09/2008 12:53:14 PM PST by Eagle50AE (Pray for our Armed Forces.)
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