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FR Gun Club: Sighting In A New Rifle
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Posted on 12/08/2008 9:26:18 PM PST by Neil E. Wright

You can't be to careful when sighting in your expensive new deer rifle .........

1. Shiny new, high-powered deer rifle..............$ 1,200.00

2. Quality, high-powered scope........................$ 550.00

3. Bore sighting device.....................................$ 140.00

4. Hospital Visit......................$ 4,893.00

5. Forgetting to remove the bore sighting device prior to actually shooting? Disastrous

"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."
-John Wayne


TOPICS: Education; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: banglist; boresighting; disaster; stupidtrick
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To: Neil E. Wright

Set up target about 50 to 75 yards out. Brace rifle against something so it wont move. Aim at center of target and shoot, do this 2 or three times. Go look at where you hit the target and adjust sights/scope...windage/elevation accordingly then try it again. Repeat until you hit the center of target with consistency. You dont need any fancy gizmos just a little time.


21 posted on 12/08/2008 10:53:35 PM PST by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: Neil E. Wright

Know what you are doing.

Kind of messed up that pretty new gun as well as messed up the owner.


22 posted on 12/08/2008 11:10:10 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: NVDave
I've used that method myself many times. Just to add to what you said, here's a couple of other ways to sight in a rifle in case you don't have a bolt action.

If you have some sort of action that doesn't allow for boresighting in the manner NVDave described, put your target up at 10 yards, or as close as the range will allow and use a big target. Center your crosshairs on the bull and fire one shot. It probably didn't come close, but there are two ways you can get it very close to zeroed without firing another shot.

If you have some sort of rest, use bungee cords or have a friend hold it tightly in place with the scope still centered on the bull, (you can do this after you have shot). Then simply adjust the crosshairs until they are centered on the hole your bullet left in the target. You may want to set them a little high depending on your range. You are now roughly zeroed. If this is done right it can be very precise and can result in a near perfect zero with only one shot. You'll want to fire a group to check it and fine tune it anyway though.

If you don't have any way to keep your rifle steady, then you want to figure out the horizontal and vertical distance between the bull and the bullet hole and figure out the number of clicks necessary for your correction. With a good scope and accurate calculations, this will get you close to zeroed. With a cheap scope, you'll have to repeat this several times. Cheap scopes hardly ever have accurate click adjustments. The adjustments are usually larger than advertised, so if a cheap scope claims to have 1/4" clicks at 100 yards, they're usually 1/2". You won't know until you start making adjustments and seeing what happens, but if you see that your adjustments are overcorrecting, just reduce the number of clicks accordingly.

23 posted on 12/08/2008 11:10:56 PM PST by elmer fudd (Fukoku kyohei)
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To: Neil E. Wright

I just bust out laughing at work! Thanks for the laugh.


24 posted on 12/09/2008 12:18:41 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Neil E. Wright
The injured victim in the last pic is not from this incident. This has been posted elsewhere for years.

The actual person whose rifle barrel exploded was unharmed and posted the aftermath pictures the same day on a shooter's board.

25 posted on 12/09/2008 12:27:57 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: fishhound

Looks like something the National Endowment For The Arts would pay someone $500,000 for.


26 posted on 12/09/2008 1:12:29 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: Neil E. Wright

Guns can be fun in the right hands.


27 posted on 12/09/2008 1:20:04 AM PST by bmwcyle (McCain had no honor when he failed to defend Sarah Palin, Leno was not enough)
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To: The KG9 Kid; Squantos
The injured victim in the last pic is not from this incident. This has been posted elsewhere for years.

Correct you are. If I am not mistaken this is the second post to FR. The first time this circulated was several years ago. No matter, the guy was fortunate.

I was involved in an incident of a 175mm round prematurely detonating in the tube of a gun (not a howitzer) in Vietnam. The crew survived, but with ear problems and minor cuts from shrapnel. The lot of fuses that had been put in the round had a manufacturing defect. I wish I had some pictures, it looked similar to this, just with a barrel that was 31 feet long. (I was a mechanic and had a new tube installed and the gun was firing again within 48 hours. Support maintenance flew out to inspect the cradle and recoil system, but there was nothing wrong with it)

28 posted on 12/09/2008 2:34:07 AM PST by SLB (Wyoming's Alan Simpson on the Washington press - "all you get is controversy, crap and confusion")
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To: SLB
Good gravy. I can't believe those soldiers weren't blown into cat food. I've seen 155mm downrange impacts from many miles away and they're practically nuclear.

I bet their kids were born dizzy.

29 posted on 12/09/2008 2:49:08 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: SLB

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that the man actually holding the boresight device fragment in his hand in the first picture was the actual shooter.


30 posted on 12/09/2008 2:50:19 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: NVDave

Somewhat similar for a 57mm recoiless rifle :-).

Tried but true method.

The last time I bought a scoped rifle - the gun shop guys did the basic zero with their collimator. Fast and had me on paper when I went to the range.


31 posted on 12/09/2008 4:36:58 AM PST by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: Neil E. Wright
I knew someone who's M4 carbine did that. It had been issued to him with a cleaning rod still in it. When he took it to the range masters saying it sounded funny, they told him it was nothing, to just shoot it.

Thankfully, that guy is ok.

32 posted on 12/09/2008 4:40:35 AM PST by jude24
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To: NVDave; Squantos

For the life of me, I cannot see any reason to bore sight a bolt rifle or AR any way OTHER than the way you described. It’s the distilled essense of KISS, it’s fast, it works, it needs no gizmos, and can even be done in the field.


33 posted on 12/09/2008 4:42:14 AM PST by Travis McGee (--www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com--)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
I'm betting this gun owner won't make that mistake again.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

34 posted on 12/09/2008 5:04:39 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Squantos; Eaker

As soon as I saw the pictures I thought of Eaker.

Figured I had to be too late by now to ping him.


35 posted on 12/09/2008 5:07:49 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: SLB

Holy crap....

Did the fuse detonate as a result of the acceleration shock, ie, was the round on its way out of the tube when it went off?

Was this a M107 SPG?


36 posted on 12/09/2008 5:11:57 AM PST by NVDave
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To: Joe Brower

Not with that rifle anyway.


37 posted on 12/09/2008 5:12:00 AM PST by Durus (The People have abdicated our duties and anxiously hopes for just two things, "Bread and Circuses")
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To: Squantos
I only thought stuff like this happened in the Houston area !!!

Nah. A friend of mine blew up an Argentine Mauser. He decided the powder he'd been dumping out of the IMI blanks he was pulling the wooden bullets out of looked a lot like BLC-2, so he decided to whip up a couple of 'light' loads...

He got off very lucky. The rifle was toast (the hunter safety crew up here use it as an example of what NOT to do when reloading). He got a couple of small pieces of brass in the forehead and some concussion bruising to his hand when the foregrip splintered.

38 posted on 12/09/2008 5:14:39 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Snurple

Shoot once, adjust the scope to put the crosshairs on the hole. Lather, rinse, repeat. You should be pretty much on within three shots.


39 posted on 12/09/2008 5:17:34 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: NVDave

You forgot to mention you have to reverse the adjustments on the scope. Boresighting brings the crosshairs to the impact. Sighting in by firing brings the impact to the crosshairs.

It gets even more confusing when using a dental mirror on a closed receiver like a Garand.

The better boresights use a modified cartridge.


40 posted on 12/09/2008 5:20:03 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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