[pepsionice]

There are various truths and myths to this entire Obama birth certificate episode. The $850k spent on fighting it...mostly myth...I have seen over twenty different amounts on various pages...and I have come to doubt any topic when money is mentioned.

I will offer this analysis....if and when the mess is finally cleared....I think he will have been born in Hawaii...which passes the rules, and this discussion will be finished. However, I do believe that the birthdate constantly given in August 1961...won’t be factual. I think thats what he has continually tried to keep hidden. My thinking is that his mother (Stanley Ann)....was pregnant before leaving Seattle and long before meeting this Kenyan guy. So if proven on the birth certificate....then a major portion of his book, his story, and his legend....will be bogus.

The fact that no neighbor or family friend in Hawaii knows anything about this birth or remembers anything...is puzzling.

[seekthetruth]

Thanks for posting this thread!

Here is another:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2144344/posts?q=1&;page=394#394

I ask everyone to go here and read, read, read. Our Constitution must be upheld no matter WHO is President!
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/

[JCG]

There are various truths and myths to this entire Obama birth certificate episode. The $850k spent on fighting it...mostly myth...I have seen over twenty different amounts on various pages...and I have come to doubt any topic when money is mentioned.

I don't know about the amount but if he has dispatched lawyers to 17 states to shield his BC from possible scrutiny, that is certainly significant.

Does anyone know if this part of the story is true?

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[ladyjane]

The fact that no neighbor or family friend in Hawaii knows anything about this birth or remembers anything...is puzzling.

I have heard that one of his classmates at Columbia remembers him either.

[Sherman Logan]

Will never be finished, unfortunately, as long as the true believers refuse to accept facts. They insist on defining the term “natural-born citizen” by their own definition, rather than it has been used for centuries in common law and in American legal cases. In which cases it is the exact equivalent of “native-born” or “citizen at birth” and is contrasted with the only other category of American citizen, naturalized.

Thanks for providing a rational suggestion about why he is refusing to release his BC that doesn’t involve his trying to hide his true citizenship. I don’t know if it’ true, but it’s at least a logical attempt to explain the otherwise inexplicable decision to not release a simple document most of us have had to produce many times.

[ElayneJ]

If obama is shown to have been born in Hawaii, of course that issue will be put to rest. But he’s really introduced perhaps a bigger issue, which is the degree to which he’s willing to hide, dodge, duck, weave, and stonewall when it comes to questions that are important to the American people. His supporters might continue to support him, but the truth is clear now and even they must know it. His administration will not be transparent and he doesn’t see himself as accountable at all to the American people.

[nufsed]

I have seen 300,000-1 million. How do we really know for sure. I have read there were three law forms hired. I’m guessing he’s spending campaign money.

[Mariebl]

However, I do believe that the birthdate constantly given in August 1961...won’t be factual. I think thats what he has continually tried to keep hidden.

Problem is, what about those Hawaiian birth announcements? I'll agree that they don't prove that he was born in Hawaii, but they certainly indicate an August birth.

[devere]

“The fact that no neighbor or family friend in Hawaii knows anything about this birth or remembers anything...is puzzling”

That’s because Barry was born in Mombasa, Kenya. His family there remebers it well.

It’s amazing how people resist accepting the obvious.