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Are you looking for a job? (#3) [A Nice List]
www.freerepublic.com/ ^ | 12/06/08 | Fellow FReepers who care about you

Posted on 12/06/2008 7:33:58 AM PST by B4Ranch

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To: Las Vegas Dave

If you are nervous enough to bookmark it then you probably ought to start putting out some feelers just to see what’s available.


61 posted on 12/08/2008 2:08:25 PM PST by B4Ranch ( Veterans: "There is no expiration date on our oath, to protect America from all enemies, ...")
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To: B4Ranch

bttt


62 posted on 12/08/2008 2:14:42 PM PST by GOPJ (Perverse incentives birth nasty unintended consequences.)
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To: B4Ranch
If you are nervous enough to bookmark it then you probably ought to start putting out some feelers just to see what’s available.

I feel like a player on the bubble in training camp. The board told management to find some more money for 2009 and things are alreadly cut to the bone. Being in an overhead type job (accounting) with no unique job-related knowledge I feel relatively expendable. Last January I was in the same position in a different industry and got laid off. I really don't want that to happen again. I guess I should get the feelers out, but this job market is getting scary.

63 posted on 12/08/2008 2:15:40 PM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: B4Ranch

“If someone offers you a job in a grocery store, take it because you never know whom you’ll meet while working there.”

San Antonio just got 700 million for the BAMC expansion. Hundreds of jobs will be created. I am asking around to see who can use someone with a good mind and a strong back.

We’ll go from there.


64 posted on 12/08/2008 2:20:07 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("Control the information, you control the people.")
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To: usconservative

Thanks for the advice. My resume is will do the job. San Antonio still has that high wall / low wall mentality. They are also big on buzz words.

I really need to get my PMP certification. That’s on this weeks schedule. Get the work done so I can submit my application. Then get studying.

Good thing is my attitude is still good. Just have to watch the cash flow.


65 posted on 12/08/2008 2:23:27 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("Control the information, you control the people.")
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Get some feelers out and get your butt back to school so that you have the latest and greatest knowledge for a hurting company.

Or start your own business with your current employers as your client. Take everyone you can right out of the office you are in, who is in the same position you are. No benefits and no guarantees, just a paycheck to get through the recession. Ask the management to assist you in setting it up so that you provide only what they need to survive. You already have a foot in the door and a seat at the table. Use it!


66 posted on 12/08/2008 2:34:57 PM PST by B4Ranch ( Veterans: "There is no expiration date on our oath, to protect America from all enemies, ...")
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To: sf4dubya

I can’t say for sure but perhaps some professional help in writing your resume may help.


68 posted on 12/08/2008 2:54:14 PM PST by B4Ranch ( Veterans: "There is no expiration date on our oath, to protect America from all enemies, ...")
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To: EQAndyBuzz

>Hundreds of jobs will be created.<

Are you of the age, race and gender for whom the politicians have intended these jobs to go to? If you aren’t they will pass you by.


69 posted on 12/08/2008 2:56:22 PM PST by B4Ranch ( Veterans: "There is no expiration date on our oath, to protect America from all enemies, ...")
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To: B4Ranch

Thanks for posting these. My last day at my job is 12/19. It was a temp job that was supposed to last 3 months and it lasted 16 months. So I can’t complain as far as that goes. But none the less, Christmas will be slim this year. I have not put a lot of money into gifts and now I am glad.
I appreciate your list! I will start right on it!!


70 posted on 12/08/2008 4:02:41 PM PST by 4everontheRight ("Boy, those French: They have a different word for everything! "- Steve Martin)
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To: B4Ranch
From the looks of the responses, once again this thread was well worth the few moments it took me to post it.

Half of pure genius is timing. Bless you.

I'll be over to mow your lawns once I get RIF'd.

71 posted on 12/08/2008 5:48:57 PM PST by glock rocks (Keep the change.)
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To: Lazamataz

Or else you swallow...


72 posted on 12/08/2008 5:51:01 PM PST by Doohickey (The more cynical you become, the better off you'll be.)
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To: B4Ranch
The more precisely you planned your future, the harder that this temporary unemployment will hit you.

Exactly why I got out of project management and into lead development. Oh, and I mow lawns, and design exquisite gardens... but, sadly, I don't speak Spanish. Hola!

73 posted on 12/08/2008 5:54:53 PM PST by glock rocks (Keep the change.)
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To: glock rocks

And the other half is luck, at least with me it is.


74 posted on 12/08/2008 6:26:10 PM PST by B4Ranch ( Veterans: "There is no expiration date on our oath, to protect America from all enemies, ...")
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To: B4Ranch

internet employment sites ping


75 posted on 12/08/2008 11:34:23 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: EQAndyBuzz
I wanted to share my experience with you, hoping you'd find something to relate to:

Back in 2003 I lost my job. Prior to losing it, I had major back surgery which took 6 months to recover from. During that, I had to learn to walk again. It was downright painful.

The company, a large Advertising Agency in Chicago had been taken over by a foreign interest, and I was laid off the very day I returned to work. I never even got to sit in my office before being shown the door.

It took me 4 months to find a new job, which at that time wasn't very long. During my search I literally sent out hundreds of resume's, 90% or more of which never received so much as an acknowledgment. I was fortunate enough to have several head-hunters as friends, all of which gave me good advice from tailoring my resume to "raising the bar" on the type of job I was looking for, based on my experience. Several suggested that with the experience I had, I would likely 'intimidate' many hiring managers who would look at me as someone capable of taking their (Senior Management) jobs.

Once I raised the bar on the type of job I was looking for, I started receiving calls back. Many of them noted that I looked like a very good candidate, HOWEVER I had not completed my college degree. In tough economic times, companies tend to filter the people they look for, and having a college degree or certification in my area of expertise was one of the filters being applied at that time.

After about 4 months, I managed to land a position better than the one I had been let go from. The salary was better, title was better, responsibilities were less, staff given to me was larger as was the budget I managed. Overall, it was a good move for me.

But I did learn a valuable lesson in all of it: that the economy was cyclical, and having a College degree in my field was going to be very important moving forward should the economy hit another recession. Good, smart people (with College degrees) will always find work easier than those without the degree.

So as I started my new job, I formed a simple plan. I'd take a year to settle into the new job, then go back to school and finish my degree.

And so I did. Once I hit the year mark, I worked with my boss, the CTO of the organization to work out a schedule that would permit me to return to school and finish my degree while meeting my commitments to the organization. I would describe my CTO as being highly supportive of me doing so, and my time required to be away from work amounted to leaving 90 minutes 'early' twice a week.

So in late 2004, I returned to school and completed my un-finished degree (from 1985...) in Computer Science. I completed that in June, 2005. I took 2 classes a week for 10 months to complete it. What a joy it was for me to have my two sons (8 and 10 at the time) as well as my wife and family with me when I finally graduated College - at the age of 42.

In late 2005 after completing that degree, my CTO approached me and asked if I would be seeking to complete my Masters, as the organization paid 100% for it should I decide to pursue it. In early 2006 I began my Masters Degree, and completed it in mid 2007.

Now here it's important to say that the organization I worked for was a large Bank in Chicago, which was sold to Bank of America in March of 2007. I left the organization with several months to go to complete my Masters as the bank was in process of being sold. I was fortunate enough that the Bank I worked for didn't enforce the "payback" policy for obtaining my Masters Degree. It was the CTO's option to enforce/not enforce it. As we both knew the bank was for sale (and he himself was also leaving) he informed me he would not be enforcing the payback rule.

I finished my Masters degree a few months after starting a position with another employer in the Summer of 2007, who knew I was in process of completing it.

So the lessons I learned, which I hope you will take away and learn from are that not only is tailoring your resume important, and possibly 'raising the bar' on your own search likely to land you a position, you should also seriously consider how you will be better positioned during the next economic cycle downturn by completing your PMP certification or a college degree (if it's unfinished.)

The economic reality is simply that those with college degrees or higher will always be in more economic demand than those without. Good, bright smart people with good educations will seldom be without work for very long.

My best wishes for you to have a successful search. But remember: it's all about having a plan to protect your best interests, and doing so may mean making some short term sacrifices for long term gain.

76 posted on 12/09/2008 4:16:33 AM PST by usconservative (My Plan For Government Reform: Hangings on Thursday, Trials on Friday.)
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To: Scythian

Joe the Plumber need to find this thread.


77 posted on 12/09/2008 9:24:44 AM PST by B4Ranch ( Veterans: "There is no expiration date on our oath, to protect America from all enemies, ...")
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To: B4Ranch

bump


78 posted on 12/09/2008 1:24:34 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: lucyblue

Ping.


79 posted on 12/09/2008 1:39:51 PM PST by Purdue Pete
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To: B4Ranch

I have been a headhunter since 89...it’s sorta quiet in my industry that I recruit in. Companies have openings but not pulling the trigger.


80 posted on 12/09/2008 2:03:34 PM PST by oust the louse (This Country now has a smelly BO problem.....)
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