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Only a few white men were disfranchised during Reconstruction. Most of these being Confederate government officials and high army officers. Most of them for short periods. They weren’t disenfranchised for being white, they lost their right to vote because they betrayed their oath to the United States.

Before you fall into a morass of self-pity, you might go take a look at how some other great civil wars turned out for the losers.

English Civil War - losers had all property confiscated and often were executed. Estimated 10% of population of England died, 30% of Scotland, 40% of Ireland. In the earlier Wars of the Roses entire clans of aristocrats were wiped out, which admittedly was usually no great loss to anyone else.

Spanish Civil War - somewhere around 200,000 of the losers executed after the fighting ended.

Taiping Rebellion (around the same time as WBTS)- total death toll around 30M, about half of those in reprisals after the real fighting ended.

Russian Civil War - led to the victory of Lenin and Stalin, eventual death toll somewhere around 30M to 50M. Captured losers were generally shot on the spot.

Numerous Roman civil wars - if losers weren’t massacred, they were sold into slavery.

In fact, of all great civil wars down thru history, the defeated South was treated by far the most gently. That is a historical fact.

Almost no land or other property confiscated. Even General Lee’s family eventually got title to Arlington back.

Only one man executed for war crimes.


104 posted on 12/01/2008 3:33:11 PM PST by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: Sherman Logan

er many many people had their land taken away, infact I know of a guy who had ancestors out in lee county GA who had their land taken away

as for so what about land taken away
yea the indians did too didn’t they ?

If you know England then there is still resentment about the civil war there
Got to spain and there is still the basque and Madrid at each other

just because a treaty was signed does not mean the loser has to forget their dead nor their struggle and nor their views.

yankees can look at the war with o get over it but if the south had gone tom places up north like MA, VT,RI,NY and did the crap like sherman did then the story would be different

There is a book called civil war archive , it is quite telling in those letters.

the south were treated quite good, well yes compared to stalin and his gulags.

Here are the facts, the south was being taxed and I never said more did I? and they saw their money go up north.
carpetbaggers came down south after the war and took land, plantations , houses etc go to Richmond etc and look at the archives.
The war was never over slavery and only the people who know of no history actually thinks that.

The south lost for a number of reason and it was not the loss of will to fight.
no more men of fighting age where the north had shiploads every day from Europe.
the north had the navy and blocked the ports
the north had the money and the industry.
Just before Gettysburg the north was taking big defeats and the war was becoming a burden to most people even the NY times published about it back then.
Now that is a very interesting read.
Technology

over 60,000 blacks fought for the confederacy, the 6 nations of native Americans fought for it too, less than 5% of southerners like slavery and states like TN was thinking of getting rid of it

in the end this topic is about a motel flying the flag, and so what they have a right, they have a right to do what ever with the flag and I find it strange that when the stars and stripes is burnt liberals say big deal just a cloth and yet show the battle flag a flag and a war they know nothing about they get their knickers in a twist.


106 posted on 12/01/2008 4:41:13 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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