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Couple Waits Till Marriage for First Kiss
Foxnews.com ^ | 11/29/08 | AP

Posted on 11/30/2008 7:20:18 PM PST by Oyarsa

Chicagoans Melody LaLuz, 28, and Claudaniel Fabien, 30, shared their first kiss Saturday at the altar. The two teach abstinence at the city's public schools and practiced what they preached to their teenage students.

The Chicago Tribune reports that the couple had never kissed and that they had never been alone together in a house.

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: churchladies; claudanielfabien; comeonbitetheapple; firstkiss; kissesareevil; marriage; melodylaluz; moralabsolutes; notbuyingit; truelove
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To: Oyarsa

Amazing that so many people are angry about this.


81 posted on 11/30/2008 9:13:02 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: Drango

Thank you for your graciousness towards the new couple. I appreciate your respect for them.


82 posted on 11/30/2008 9:13:30 PM PST by Oyarsa
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To: Oyarsa

Actually I am a mrs lj and we have a wonderful marriage, 16 years now. We are best friends.


83 posted on 11/30/2008 9:13:42 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: little jeremiah

It’s unfortunate. I think it’s a wonderful thing—a truly romantic gesture that has all but been lost in a society where “booty calls” are socially acceptable.

Not everyone has the willpower or desire to keep such a commitment, but for those who do, and succed in their commitment, God bless them, I say.


84 posted on 11/30/2008 9:15:42 PM PST by Oyarsa
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To: Oyarsa

It wasn’t until the 4th night of their honeymoon that my grandfather touched my grandmother


85 posted on 11/30/2008 9:17:47 PM PST by fso301
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To: little jeremiah

My apologies, I assumed incorrectly, Mrs. LJ. Excuse me while I wipe this egg off my face.

I have heard that when two people, who are married to eachother, are best friends, their marriage is more solid than most marriages. Thus, I hope you and Mr. LJ reach 60 years of matrimony.

I take it both you and Mr. LJ are Freepers?


86 posted on 11/30/2008 9:19:38 PM PST by Oyarsa
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To: fso301

That definitely would take self-control. :-) I hope your grandparents have (had?) a happy marriage.


87 posted on 11/30/2008 9:21:11 PM PST by Oyarsa
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To: Oyarsa

“Perhaps you can explain why it bothers you so greatly that they did something outside of the normalcy of the collective.”

You’re really hung up on that word “collective” aren’t you. Did you come from a socialist country? They (the non-kissers) don’t bother me in the least. That doesn’t stop me from expressing an opinion of their actions. It is a free country, isn’t it, or at least until Obama gets his meathooks on it. I think they are not the norm, and I think they may be grandstanding, and I hope no one emulates their “non-kiss” policy. It’s ridiculous, IMO, and it is in my opinion, an extreme, and borders on zealotry. But then again, I am probably speaking to another zealot here.


88 posted on 11/30/2008 9:22:10 PM PST by flaglady47 (Four years of captivity, no relief in sight)
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To: Oyarsa

Agreed. I have a relative who did the same thing. That kiss was electric at the wedding. They are happily married for nearly 15 years now - with 6 kids!


89 posted on 11/30/2008 9:22:45 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: flaglady47

Of course they don’t bother you in the least, which is why you referred to persons making the personal decision not to kiss until their wedding day as “a bunch of fundamentalist Taliban types”. I see.

Yes, Most people refer to those whose behavior doesn’t bother them as “a bunch of fundamentalist Taliban types”.

Whether other people make the decision to emulate their “non-kiss” policy or not is not your concern. They are not breaking the law, nor affecting you in any manner, or telling you that you must refrain from kissing before marriage. You, however “hope no one emulates their non-kiss policy”.

Thank you for proving my point—you wish to pressure others into not making a decision of which you don’t approve; a decision that harms noone and violates no law.


90 posted on 11/30/2008 9:27:38 PM PST by Oyarsa
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To: Oyarsa
There was a time in human history when most couples did not so much as kiss prior to their wedding day.

That has never been the norm in the United States. If you look at early marriage and birth records, a remarkable number of first children were born suspiciously shortly after their parents' marriage.

Even in the 18th century, it would be extremely unusual for a couple of 28 and 30 to have completely abstained from all personal contact.

91 posted on 11/30/2008 9:29:00 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: anniegetyourgun

Congratulations to your relative. I hope they have a long and happy marriage, that grows stronger each passing day, and may their children view their parents’ marriage and desire to emulate its strengths in their own marriages.


92 posted on 11/30/2008 9:30:44 PM PST by Oyarsa
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To: MediaMole

I never argued that all persons held to that standard, nor did I say anything about the U.S.; that custom held strongest in societies which practiced arranged marriages—and those societies are far fewer now than they were even 1,000 years ago.


93 posted on 11/30/2008 9:32:33 PM PST by Oyarsa
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To: Oyarsa

Actually I am the one and only lj. Originally I had another screen name, relatives “found” me and I had to re-register, I chose a name that did not sound like a “she-name” to avoid detection. My “outing” caused terrible problems. JR knew and allowed me to get another name.

It’s been a few years, and I am now safe in revealing that I am actually a she and not a he. No need for egg on face!

Unfortunately, in order to have 60 years of wedded bliss I’d have to live to 100! But thank you just the same.

PS - I love CS Lewis’ trilogy!


94 posted on 11/30/2008 9:38:29 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: Oyarsa

Alas, many just don’t get it.

I’m glad a few do though.


95 posted on 11/30/2008 9:39:02 PM PST by Fichori (I believe in a Woman's right to choose, even if she hasn't been born yet.)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

Extreme? How about the two minute kiss during their wedding ceremony? That’s extreme to me, blech!


96 posted on 11/30/2008 9:39:09 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: flaglady47

I find it disgusting that people who hold principles such as virtue in high regard are ridiculous extremist zealots. And you hope no one emulates such behavior.

Much better to follow current cultural sexual standards into the sewer, I guess.


97 posted on 11/30/2008 9:41:05 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: Oyarsa

Sounds like quite a bonding experience to me.


98 posted on 11/30/2008 9:46:07 PM PST by ansel12 ( When a conservative pundit mocks Wasilla, he's mocking conservatism as it's actually lived.)
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To: little jeremiah

“Much better to follow current cultural sexual standards into the sewer, I guess.”

No, better not to consider kissing some kind of sexual abberation on the part of human beings. Kissing does not equal sewer, except, it seems, in your own mind.


99 posted on 11/30/2008 9:50:22 PM PST by flaglady47 (Four years of captivity, no relief in sight)
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To: little jeremiah
Thanks for the explanation; I'm sorry you had problems with detection under a previous screen name, and I hope you will continue to avoid detection by your relations.

I'm impressed that you picked up on the reference. Lewis' Space Trilogy (Out of the Silent Planet, Perelandra, and That Hideous Strength) is excellent; but That Hideous Strength is probably the best of the three, with its hard hitting lambasting of scientism (which, according to Lewis, is "a certain outlook on the world which is casually connected with the popularization of the sciences, though it is much less common among real scientists than among their readers. It is, in a word, the belief that the supreme moral end is the perpetuation of our own species, and that this is to be pursued even if, in the process of being fitted for survival, our species has to be stripped of all those things for which we value it--of pity, of happiness, and of freedom." [see Lewis' Of Other Worlds, p. 76-77])and collectivism.

100 posted on 11/30/2008 9:57:25 PM PST by Oyarsa
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